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Is SciFi "Exhausted"?  

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JamesCoote
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October 17, 2012 02:33  

This is essentially a repost from another forum, but interested in what you guys make of it

http://www.nerds-fea...-exhausted.html

http://www.nerds-fea...xhausted_2.html

Since I don't read prolificly, the name dropping can get a bit much, but the basic thrust of the argument is that since science fiction (and genres in general) are self-defined, authors are increasingly sticking to what could be described as 'core' scifi, rather than poking at the fuzzy boundaries, and this is leading to the genre becoming stale and lacking in ideas.

I'm personally inclined to agree, as I've not recently come across anything that I think "wow, that's really pushing the envelope, and it's sci fi"

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October 17, 2012 07:36  

Nowadays I exclusively read sci-fi. At the moment the Horus Heresy saga (Warhammer 40.000).

I read the first ~100 books of Perry Rhodan (German sci-fi) and about 5 or 6 books from Dan Simmons. And hundreds of other sci-fi in the past.

For me they all feel different and most of the lore/universes have pretty much different settings. Although there is often a tendency towards imperialism/dictatorship.

I am not sure what this 'core' sci-fi is, but regarding my life span and all the books that have already been written and that will be written in the future I don't see me being bored or dissappointed anytime soon.


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JamesCoote
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October 17, 2012 14:32  

I think it's more the feeling that none of those settings or scenarios are particularly new nor innovative. They may be well written, but at the same time, they are just employing the same old tropes.


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October 17, 2012 15:30  

I only scanned through that interview, so I won't comment on it.

I will recommend Charles Stross, though - try Singularity Sky.

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October 18, 2012 03:30  

Somebody got genre-bored and decided that the whole world needs to know about it.


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December 3, 2012 10:46  

I think Diablo kinda nailed it.

But it woldn't be the first time SciFi reached a sort of exhausted state - and some time has to go by until some new author "reinvents" the genre.

Looking at the diversity of modern scifi I have my doubts it has "reached winter", but I'm not the most profilic of readers and haven't followed the latest books.


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October 18, 2013 08:20  

In my opinion,no. There are so many really good sci-fi films,games,books. And there are so many ideas waiting for an embodiment!


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October 19, 2013 20:52  

Only thing I don't like is when some one finds a sweet spot to be in and makes a game, movie or whatever and then the copycats come and try to profit from that success. Sometimes too much of the same thing is bad because it taints the good stuff.


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July 24, 2014 18:00  

well, there is just so much sci-fi...

I have read tons and there is still good stuff coming out.

Just in the last two years have I read the Hyperion Cantos novels (the 4 of them) with the final book having the best ending I can remember in any book I ever read, and in fact the whole series was awesome. I remember I resisted reading the book cuz the premise seemed foolish (the pilgrins and this shrike monster?). But I loved every page of the 4 books.

Then I also recently read The Mote On God's Eye, which was an AWESOME book (read the second too) and it´s a bit different story, in which humanity comes in contact with aliens... but we have the upper hand technologically...

And some RECENT (2004 and 2005... ok, not SO recent) books and AWESOME, REALLY AWESOME, which prove the scifi genre is not exhausted, is the COMMONWEALTH SAGA, by Peter Hamilton.

Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained are two FANTASTIC books... where humanity has wormholes and has contact with a few aliens which we can´t really understand (we are not even sure if they are more advanced or less advanced than us) and we come in contact with a BIG, BIG mistery and at the same time there is an awesome conspiracy in the book kinda like illuminatti and investigation, and space war, EVERYTHING.


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January 6, 2015 11:53  

This link may be relevant here: Sturgeons Law

 

Excerpt from that page:

 

90% of everything is crud.

This is Sturgeon's Revelation, but common usage has it that this phrase is what is meant when the Law is cited. The actual quote for the Law is, "Nothing is always absolutely so."

This law comes from an observation on Sturgeon's part; when he saw that critics were calling 90% of Sci-Fi crap, he flipped it on them instead and stated that 90% of anything is crap.


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