February 15, 2011 at 1:56 am #58201
I downloaded the latest alpha, and so far it looks great!
One area though that I saw was that the buildings seemed kind of primitive. With that in mind I thought it would be nice to model some buildings to add to your pallet.
Here is the first one.February 15, 2011 at 2:42 am #77949ollobrainParticipant
if that can be put into the procedural generation side of things keep em comingFebruary 15, 2011 at 3:57 am #77950
maybe remove city.lua and contents of city folder (use Games Mod Exchange or similar, or my latest upadated complete pioneer), but keep city3k 😉
i will give your model a script, that’s simple for a building.February 15, 2011 at 5:05 am #77951KingHaggisParticipant
Good to see new building types. That will make those boring cities really come to life. Keep ’em coming please 😉 .February 15, 2011 at 6:02 am #77952HawkerTParticipant
To compile the previous discussions and ideas concerning buildings and cities in general, I will add a link to the two following threads:
The first thirteen pages of the linked thread above also contains posts spread out containing the various initial nice buildings done by potsmoke66 like the Arco Dome and smaller condo’s.
All the best
FransFebruary 15, 2011 at 6:14 am #77953robnParticipantHawkerT wrote:To compile the previous discussions and ideas concerning buildings and cities in general, I will add a link to the two following threads:
Thanks for pulling that together. If anyone is looking for a way to contribute, something that would be awesome would be to compile information like this and put it on the wiki.February 15, 2011 at 6:41 am #77954
[attachment=1]building_greyoxide1_1.zip[/attachment]February 15, 2011 at 8:02 am #77955
some facts and thoughts about cities/buildings in pioneer
if it would be possible to place tile to tile gapless, i would have done buildings on decks including street tiles, parks and other stuff allready.
but before we can have such tiles must be able to position one to the other.
it would be even nice to separate cities, at least for planets with breathable or non-breathable atmosphere, as soon as a affility (federal,imperial,allied) is possible it would be fine to have this for cities (all models, a theme?) to maybe.
there is this problem that cities placed randomly sometimes on very steep hillsides. one way to get around that is to have rather deep basements or blocks.
the combo building has ~10m radius and a basement 50m deep, the archology has 200m (base ~10m) radius and a basement 160m deep.
what i wouldn’t like to see is flattened terrain around cities, it would kill some of the artificial look.
a groundbase is stil under construction 😀
the poor fellas that can’t use shaders, can use the no_shader scripts for the city3k respectively the new bgo1 building,
they are placed in the models folder and must be renamed to activate them (exchange suffix).
this will result in a city using buildings with no basements.February 15, 2011 at 11:57 am #77956
i made a second building of the same, that didn’t changes much,
except that it shuffles the buildings new and brings back more of the archologies.
[attachment=0]building_greyoxide1_2.zip[/attachment]February 15, 2011 at 1:25 pm #77957
I hope you can forgive my lack of familiarity with the codebase. I am wondering if it is possible to impose a heightmap on the terrain generator for city areas? Then you could divide the buildings into groups according to terrain types;
1) large city type buildings with streets/tubes around the base of the model (cannot tolerate a slope at all)
2) buildings that can handle being on a slope (large basement blocks or platforms to sit on)
3) buildings that can occur anywhere like the hab-tower thing
you would just define what greyscale value the appropriate buildings would occur on. In fact it seems like this placement value could be programmed into the .lua file, on a building by building basis according to that particular buildings toleration factor.
If it is not possible to auto-generate the height-map creation I would be happy to work up a few to start with. In my very limited experience it seems like this would be easier and cleaner in the long run, as opposed to trying work up big chunk type building blocks that may or may not be occluded by extreme terrains.
[attachment=545:untitled.png]February 15, 2011 at 5:30 pm #77958
another simple background building, this time with bumpmaps
[attachment=546:build_2.7z]February 15, 2011 at 9:38 pm #77959ollobrainParticipant
looks like a disco ballFebruary 15, 2011 at 10:54 pm #77960RedRiverParticipant
would be cool to see more cities/bases over some planets randomly generated but without starports.
habitable planets like Earth should be covered in stractures. don’t display names to keep the clutter down. just building clusters here and there like ‘shrooms in a forest…February 16, 2011 at 1:02 am #77961MarcelParticipant
Greyoxide, that first building of yours looks like it’s ready to take off! Actually both of them look like spaceships to me. The first one especially looks like it could be a colony ship that would land and spend the rest of its life as a home base while the colony would be built around it. Nice work! 😀
And potsmoke, I’m once again amazed at how prolific you are! I just spent an entire day just figuring out how to apply a texture for the side walls of the docking bay of the ELITE station in the same way that I applied it for the back wall (the one with the doors). I finally had to draw an isometric projection of the vectors of the docking bay on a piece of paper to figure it out! 😆 Hey, at least I’m doing stuff, and it’s fun! 😀February 16, 2011 at 1:33 am #77962
that could be a building…
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