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A lot of scifi games are for sale on Humble Bundle, deals end on 8/19/2019


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  • #81105
    AvatarAnonymous

    OS: SnowLeopard 10.6.8

    CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06Ghz

    Memory: 4GB 1067 DDR3

    GFX: ATI Radeon HD 4670 256Mb

    This is the machine I dev and play pioneer with – runs well.




    A lot of scifi games are for sale on Humble Bundle, deals end on 8/19/2019


    #81106
    Avatarfluffyfreak
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    Marcel wrote:
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    Funny, the Radeon 9550 should support OpenGL 2.0 and Shader Model 2.0 if you did want to use shaders. Might not be blisteringly fast though

    It doesn’t though. I can click the button to no effect only to find it unclicked again when I press [esc].

    Might I be rude and suggest… an upgrade? 😮

    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-024-HS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1842

    I was quite surprised to actually _find_ an AGP card for sale these days, I have an spare PC with a GeForce 6800 that could do with upgrading… if I ever get another job *grumble, grumble*

    Hmm, on the other hand how about checking out either the latest drivers or some of the hacked “Omega” driver packs for Ati to see if they enable those features?

    #81107
    Avatarfluffyfreak
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    Right the results suggest that we have a few people running single core machines, though all of them are at reasonable clock speeds – that means mean any threading work done will have to keep in mind that there’ll be virtually no benefit on some of our machines and probably even some negative impact if done naively.

    As far as GPUs go we have a few people that might just be below the OpenGL 2.0 spec. I thought there’d be more though!

    Those two seem to go hand-in-hand rather unsurprisingly with the majority enjoying at least a couple of cores and a good spread of everything from DirectX9 to DirectX11 GPU hardware.

    Not sure quite what this will mean to developers but it’s handy to know roughly what hardware you’re targetting, does change some of the plans I had for the future 😆

    #81108
    MarcelMarcel
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    @flufflyfreak, that card looks real nice, but I’m planning to get a better computer before too long. Last time I checked, ATI hadn’t upgraded the drivers for mine in years.

    #81109
    AvatarLuomu
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    Marcel wrote:
    @flufflyfreak, that card looks real nice, but I’m planning to get a better computer before too long. Last time I checked, ATI hadn’t upgraded the drivers for mine in years.

    http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English Last updated: 24.2.2010

    #81110
    AvatarBugbear
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    Laptop – Alienware M17 R3

    Windows 7 x64

    Intel i7 processor

    16GB RAM

    256GB SSD hard drive (I strongly recommend getting yourself an SSD – makes the OS fly)

    Radeon 6870 1GB graphics

    Runs Pioneer like a dream (as you would expect with those hardware stats) – Max planet detail, medium city detail

    #81111
    Avatarfluffyfreak
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    Bugbear1973 wrote:
    256GB SSD hard drive (I strongly recommend getting yourself an SSD – makes the OS fly)

    Yup, gotta agree, best upgrade I’ve ever made was an Intel G2 80GB SSD as my boot drive when they were released 🙂

    #81112
    Avatars2odan
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    Yup, gotta agree, best upgrade I’ve ever made was an Intel G2 80GB SSD as my boot drive when they were released 🙂

    That must have cost an arm and a leg then 🙂 I’m waiting for the cost to come down before I get one of those.

    Although saying that, they are probably not much dearer now than my noisy 160GB raptor drive was that I currently use for my boot drive.

    I installed one of the PCI ones on a nice i7 pc for someone though so I have an idea of how fast they can be 🙂

    SSD + RAID ftw…. 😉

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    Runs Pioneer like a dream (as you would expect with those hardware stats) – Max planet detail, medium city detail

    Just wait until you try a copy with terrain-threading enabled, you will be blown away 🙂

    #81113
    Avatarfluffyfreak
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    s2odan wrote:
    That must have cost an arm and a leg then 🙂 I’m waiting for the cost to come down before I get one of those.

    Think it was a couple of hundred back then, so quite a bit. I’d still recommend one though, over and above most other upgrades especially CPU or ram unless you’re really far behind the curve with those.

    #81114
    AvatarEnverex
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    Netbook (runs ok at Medium to High):

    Arch Linux 64bit

    AMD E-350 1.6Ghz

    8GB DDR3

    RadeonHD 6310 384-1024MB

    Laptop (everything is set to highest and runs great except when looking back at a space-port just after take-off which can get a little choppy, the point at which you can see every single spaceport building at once):

    Arch Linux 64bit

    Intel i7-720QM

    4GB DDR3

    nVidia GT330M

    Although I am about to replace the above laptop with:

    Arch Linux 64bit

    Intel i7-2630QM

    8GB DDR3

    nVidia GT540M

    SSDs are a great investment, quite possibly the most noticeable way of boosting performance on a machine. Getting one depends on whether you can afford the amount of storage you will need though. 128GB ones are still around £160.

    #81115
    AvatarBugbear
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    Bugbear1973 wrote:
    Laptop – Alienware M17 R3

    Windows 7 x64

    Intel i7 processor

    16GB RAM

    256GB SSD hard drive (I strongly recommend getting yourself an SSD – makes the OS fly)

    Radeon 6870 1GB graphics

    Runs Pioneer like a dream (as you would expect with those hardware stats) – Max planet detail, medium city detail

    Don’t know what’s happened – must be some dodgy Windows update that has come down, but now Pioneer is no longer running like a dream. Oh it launches and plays, but now I am seeing a very noticable drop in my frames per second.

    Even with graphics turned down to minimum, I’d estimate that I’m getting something like 15-20fps. Not happy. Time to do some snooping around to see if anything I’ve installed recently is responsible…

    #81116
    Avatarrobn
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    Bugbear1973 wrote:
    Bugbear1973 wrote:
    Runs Pioneer like a dream (as you would expect with those hardware stats) – Max planet detail, medium city detail

    Don’t know what’s happened – must be some dodgy Windows update that has come down, but now Pioneer is no longer running like a dream. Oh it launches and plays, but now I am seeing a very noticable drop in my frames per second.

    Same version of Pioneer as before, or different? ie, your fault or ours? 🙂

    #81117
    AvatarBugbear
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    robn wrote:
    Bugbear1973 wrote:
    Bugbear1973 wrote:
    Runs Pioneer like a dream (as you would expect with those hardware stats) – Max planet detail, medium city detail

    Don’t know what’s happened – must be some dodgy Windows update that has come down, but now Pioneer is no longer running like a dream. Oh it launches and plays, but now I am seeing a very noticable drop in my frames per second.

    Same version of Pioneer as before, or different? ie, your fault or ours? 🙂

    I’ve got Alpha 12 on my machine still, getting the same behaviour. I’m taking blame for this one, even though I’ve yet to determine what I did!!!!

    #81118
    AvatarBugbear
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    Bugbear1973 wrote:
    robn wrote:

    Don’t know what’s happened – must be some dodgy Windows update that has come down, but now Pioneer is no longer running like a dream. Oh it launches and plays, but now I am seeing a very noticable drop in my frames per second.

    Same version of Pioneer as before, or different? ie, your fault or ours? 🙂

    I’ve got Alpha 12 on my machine still, getting the same behaviour. I’m taking blame for this one, even though I’ve yet to determine what I did!!!![/quote]

    Don’t know whether I should start a new thread for this…If a forum moderator sees fit to do so, then please be my guest.

    As mentioned above, up until recently, Pioneer has run like a dream on my well provisioned laptop (Max planet detail, Mid city detail). Now I get a very low frame rate.

    I’ve windowed Pioneer now, and am monitoring it’s resource usage using Process Explorer:

    [attachment=893:Pioneer perf.JPG]

    You can see the CPU pegging at 12-13% – which means that it is using 100% of it’s allocated processor/core.

    The big jump in Private Bytes usage is due to me ramping the graphics detail from Low planet, Low city to Max planet, Mid city.

    Looking at the threads in use for Pioneer.exe we get:

    [attachment=894:Pioneer perf threads.JPG]

    So…I was half expecting Pioneer.exe to be waiting on a child thread. (Although I do sysadmin for a living, I don’t usually delve into troubleshooting applications in this way, so my expectations may well be unfounded).

    Perhaps my next stop should be any logs that Pioneer could provide.

    Suggestions will be appreciated but I’ll be doing further investigation… 🙂

    #81119
    Avatars2odan
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    It actually looks like win7 is changing Pioneer’s processor affinity and selecting only one core. Pioneer should actually use 25% of your pc perhaps up to 28%, certainly 28 when rendering a detailed planet and calculating that perlin -> mesh stuff.

    Un-edited it should use approx 2 and a little bit cores in the most extreme situations. The ‘little bit’ is the shaders AFAIK.

    By contrast with my setup which is a quadcore intel q6600 I’ll get up approx 55% usage in the extreme situations. Like highest detail on a detailed world maybe while fighting 🙂

    Have you tried 13 yet?

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