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Thank you for the donations over the past year (2024), it is much appreciated. I am still trying to figure out how to migrate the forums to another community software (probably phpbb) but in the meantime I have updated the forum software to the latest version. SSC has been around a while so their is some very long time members here still using the site, thanks for making SSC home and sorry I haven't been as vocal as I should be in the forums I will try to improve my posting frequency.

Thank you again to all of the members that do take the time to donate a little, it helps keep this station functioning on the outer reaches of space.

-D1-

Alpha 11 released

 robn
(@robn)
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The Pioneer development team are pleased to announce the release of Pioneer alpha 11. Build for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux are available for download from the download page.

New features

* Visual refresh: new panel graphics, UI font (Titillium Text) and model font (Cousine Bold) (#105, #114, #115, #138)

* New star images in system info view (#159)

* Manual thruster adjustments can now be made in set-speed mode (#118)

* 5 new ground based starports (1, 2, 3, 4 landing pad configs, 1 airport config) (#120)

* Major upgrade to coriolis station model (#158)

* Clicking on the hyperspace icon a second time after a hyperspace is initiated cancels the jump (#25)

* Screenshots are now in PNG format (#91, #140)

Fixes

* Orbital stations create a small amount of population (#85, #96)

* Terrain colour changes based on temperature now works properly (makes Earth look correct again)

* Crash when using an illegal goods trader that is a police front (#88)

* Crash when restoring bulleting board ads after loading a game (#86)

* Crash in AI collision detection in ternary systems

* Discovery Base (Sol) orbit too close to its parent (#116)

* Don't create illegal goods traders in systems with no illegal goods (#109)

* Better layout for hyperdrive ranges in ship purchase screen (#94)

* Use power-of-two texture for facegen to support more graphics cards (#83)

* Remove duplicate system 'EI Cancri' [2,0]

* Crash on call to Lua method Player.AddCrime

* Crash on any mission failure (#144)

* Mission status screen layout tweaks (#145)

Internal changes

* Lots of code cleanups, warnings silenced, etc

* Fonts rendering controlled by per-font config files (#106, #113)

* Background stars & Milky Way use a VBO (#164)

* Remove non-VBO code paths in the terrain renderer

This is the first release under our new monthly release process and its come off very well. We've also got a few new contributors this time around, notably in the art department. Thanks to everyone who pitched in with code, art, testing, bug reporting and general goodwill 🙂

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Topic starter Posted : June 10, 2011 03:15
(@ollobrain)
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me likey

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Posted : June 10, 2011 03:30
(@paulb1919)
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Thanks robn 😀

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Posted : June 10, 2011 03:41
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
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Looking forward to trying it out, thanks robn 😉

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Posted : June 10, 2011 04:19
(@coolhand)
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Thanks Rob, and everyone for their hard work 😀

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Posted : June 10, 2011 06:02
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
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Running with no major issues so far except for Saturn missing it's rings. I wonder if Gernot's planet fix will work with this? Also tried accelerating away on full burn from the Sun and left the game running with the stardreamer set to max for half an hour just to see what would happen. After I got to 40000+ AU from the Sun it was still going after half an hour! 😯 Only anomaly I noticed was that the ship was jumping around in the external view, but both forward and reverse views were fine. Geez this game is big! 😎

I dont know what you devs have done under the hood of the game, but it's is certainly working. The game is feeling more responsive and that "Frontier itch" is definitely getting a good scratch! 😆

Yes good build guys! 😎

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Posted : June 10, 2011 09:12
(@s2odan)
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I wonder if Gernot's planet fix will work with this?

Hey, what planet fix is that?

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Running with no major issues so far except for Saturn missing it's rings.

Hehe, we always forget to update those seeds. In customsystems sol.lua changing the seed under the saturn section should solve that annoying issue.

Mainly because there's a better way of ensuring a planet has rings but no-one has gotten around to adding that in.

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Posted : June 10, 2011 09:57
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
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s2odan wrote:
Hey, what planet fix is that?

Hehe, we always forget to update those seeds. In customsystems sol.lua changing the seed under the saturn section should solve that annoying issue. Mainly because there's a better way of ensuring a planet has rings but no-one has gotten around to adding that in.

It's on here someplace, but for the life of me I can't find it 😳 Gernot re-done Saturn and it was beautiful. Now if I can just find that post! 🙄

Um,..... do you have a proper seed value s2odan? Pretty please with sugar on top? 🙂 Someone on the Frontier Forum is having this problem too with Alpha 10. if I can find the fix for it, I will post it on there too

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Posted : June 10, 2011 11:42
(@s2odan)
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Oh well he probably only changed the Seed number. And no I'm sorry I don't have a number for you that would work. 🙁

If you feel inclined then the easiest way to get one is make a save next to Saturn, then exit make the change, load ect ect, its tedious but its the only way. Unless there was a change to the object viewer that is, as you can actually change seed with that but it doesn't work for GasGiants due to a small oversight.

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Posted : June 10, 2011 12:47
 robn
(@robn)
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Geraldine wrote:
After I got to 40000+ AU from the Sun it was still going after half an hour! 😯 Only anomaly I noticed was that the ship was jumping around in the external view, but both forward and reverse views were fine.

You're probably hitting precision issues that far out. We considered it a while ago and decided it wasn't worth the substantial coding effort to make things look right at that distance when there's nothing out there anyway.

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Topic starter Posted : June 10, 2011 12:49
 robn
(@robn)
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s2odan wrote:
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Running with no major issues so far except for Saturn missing it's rings.

Hehe, we always forget to update those seeds. In customsystems sol.lua changing the seed under the saturn section should solve that annoying issue.

Mainly because there's a better way of ensuring a planet has rings but no-one has gotten around to adding that in.

What update is required? I haven't heard of this.

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Topic starter Posted : June 10, 2011 12:50
(@Anonymous)
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robn wrote:
What update is required? I haven't heard of this.

I think we missed it.. just did a quick search and I think I found the reference.

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2080&p=19239&hilit=seed+13+#p19239

He is just changing the seed value of Saturn to seed(13)

This is an example as to why we encourage people to use the issue tracker as issues posted in the forum will get missed 😳

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Posted : June 10, 2011 15:44
(@fluffyfreak)
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robn wrote:
Geraldine wrote:
After I got to 40000+ AU from the Sun it was still going after half an hour! 😯 Only anomaly I noticed was that the ship was jumping around in the external view, but both forward and reverse views were fine.

You're probably hitting precision issues that far out. We considered it a while ago and decided it wasn't worth the substantial coding effort to make things look right at that distance when there's nothing out there anyway.

Oort cloud? 😀

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Posted : June 11, 2011 05:36
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
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robn wrote:
You're probably hitting precision issues that far out. We considered it a while ago and decided it wasn't worth the substantial coding effort to make things look right at that distance when there's nothing out there anyway.

No worries about this robn, I only tried it because the game allowed me to do it. I used to do the same mad things in Frontier just to see how far I could push the game. It is still cool however that the game can still cope with such massive distances. Not even FFE allowed you to do this, so +1 (to add to all the other pluses) for Pioneer! 😎

And thanks Philbywhizz for that link, that is the very post I was looking for 😉 I will post that on the Frontier Forum once I test it in Alpha 11.

EDIT: Yep that works a treat! For people (like me 😳 ) who need a full explanation, here is what you do. Just copy/paste the entry below over the entry in Pioneer-alpha11\data\systems\p00p00\00_sol

I used Notepad 2 to amend the entry. On this, it is line 246. You can get Notepad 2 here http://www.flos-freeware.ch/notepad2.html . Although you could just add :seed(13) below the first entry for Saturn. That will work too. Now you can enjoy Saturn as it should be, thanks Gernot! 😎

local saturn = CustomSBody:new('Saturn', 'PLANET_GAS_GIANT')

:seed(13)

:radius(f(9,1))

:mass(f(95152,1000))

:temp(134)

:semi_major_axis(f(9582,1000))

:eccentricity(f(557,10000))

:inclination(math.deg2rad(2.485))

:rotation_period(f(4,10))

:axial_tilt(math.fixed.deg2rad(f(2673,100)))

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Posted : June 11, 2011 07:12
(@marcel)
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Thanks for the reminder about this. I'd be mourning the loss of the rings again without it. I'm going to head over there and check out a before and after seed 13 view. 😀

edit: Well, the stock alpha11 had rings and a pale blue planet. Adding the 'seed:(13)' line gave Saturn a better looking ring system and cloud bands that look close enough to the real thing for now. Thanks Geraldine and potsmoke66!

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Posted : June 11, 2011 17:53
(@potsmoke66)
Noble Member

this is what i still use for whole solar system, i haven't checked it and perhaps some planets or moons might look better unchanged, this needs to be tweaked from release to release.

[attachment=2]sol_and_alpha11.zip[/attachment]

it includes some more systems that still work with this release

[attachment=783:2011-06-13_185619.jpg]

[attachment=784:2011-06-13_191659.jpg]

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Posted : June 13, 2011 08:46
(@ollobrain)
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now where is alpha 12 aiming for 🙂

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Posted : June 13, 2011 17:20
 robn
(@robn)
Noble Member

We don't really have a set list of goals for each release. Here's a list of things that I know are in the works right now. Of course these might not make it for alpha 12 or at all - no commitments at this early stage 🙂

* in-game music

* populated systems highlighted in sector map

* passenger cabins

* cargo scooping

* gui visual refresh

There's also a few fixes merged already and some more on the way.

Fyi, ways to track what's going on:

* Watch the Changelog

* Try a nightly build

* Watch the issue tracker to see what's being reported and discussed

* Use the network graph to see what people are doing on their personal Pioneer code forks

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Topic starter Posted : June 13, 2011 17:59
(@marcel)
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potsmoke66 wrote:

this is what i still use for whole solar system, i haven't checked it and perhaps some planets or moons might look better unchanged, this needs to be tweaked from release to release.

I just logged on to ask if someone had a seed for Uranus and Neptune, and I find that you certainly have! 😆 Thanks, I'll check them out.

edit: Neptune looks excellent. The ring system around Uranus is too extensive, but what the hell, it's beautiful and nobody goes there anyway. I noticed that you added some spaceports to Earth. In my experience that will cause your saved games to crash Pioneer. You have to start a new game to make it work. I just copied the seeds, not the whole file so it works, but perhaps you should warn people about this.

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Posted : June 13, 2011 19:00
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
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Opened a feature request on Github about a ships log.

https://github.com/pioneerspacesim/pioneer/issues/204

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Posted : June 14, 2011 03:27
(@vampiretteducosmos)
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Potsmoke66, I like very very much your solar system and other sytems in the pack, I sincerely believe that you are a godsend to create solar systems!

I really want you to participate in Pioneer alpha 12 pleeeaasseeee 😳 ...

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Posted : June 14, 2011 06:40
(@potsmoke66)
Noble Member

a missing file.

for those who like to compile pioneer alpha11 with MSVC, there is one file missing

pnglibconf.h

put this to "...\win32\include\".

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Posted : June 14, 2011 07:05
(@s2odan)
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VampiretteDuCosmos wrote:
Potsmoke66, I like very very much your solar system and other sytems in the pack, I sincerely believe that you are a godsend to create solar systems!

I really want you to participate in Pioneer alpha 12 pleeeaasseeee 😳 ...

If he wants to comit his new seeds, then they can be added also. We add work that gets committed to Git.

But anyone can do this, even you can do this if you want, its very easy but very effective to change seeds for a system.

But... be prepared for them *all* to change once I finally finish off the terrain system, as I have been planning to do for months now.

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for those who like to compile pioneer alpha11 with MSVC, there is one file missing

We already got that, your probably using an older version 😉

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Posted : June 14, 2011 07:08
(@ironhound)
Reputable Member

Congrats on the new release!

I havn't really had the time to put into the game properly, but every few versions Ill put half-an-hour into and play with things. 🙂 I like the new HUD/panel. The old place holder made me giggle everytime I clicked on 'warp'

Keep up the good work. The game is coming along quite nicely. 🙂

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Posted : June 29, 2011 14:49