Great news robn

Had a qick fly around Sol to check out the sights. Saturn looks different!

Its getting there, but next time around it should look like this 🙂 :

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Its a new terrain so changing seeds won't give you that one, but it will be in the next alpha. Although there is the old saturn terrain in alpha 12 and changin seeds could give you that one with rings instead of the jupiter one.

Saturn looks like this on the Mac version.

Alpha 12

Macbook Pro

Nivida GeForce 9400M

OS X 10.6.5

So the people seeing the gas giant rings through the planet, what graphics card do you have and what platform are you playing on?

Known issue, happens on all platforms and both Radeon and Nvidia, but only wth shaders enabled. I expect its another depth bug.

hi Robn I just turned the shaders off and yes, the rings are clipped correctly....

I never use em as I prefer the look of the game without them, at least for now. Y' know I was thinking there, that the last two screen shots of Pioneer I posted on here, were of Saturn. I really must try going to other systems more often 😳 Mind you, I also noted seed value of 14 in s20dan's pic. Looks like I will be going back to Saturn again! 😆

Nvidia Gtx285 + Win7x64 here.

Rings are clipping incorrectly in the pic I posted back there, although its harder to see as they rings are the same colour as the gas giant in that pic.

nVidia 470GTX, Win7 x64

With shaders enabled I can see the rings through planets too.

Unplayable. I have 1-2 fps. CPU: Athlon64 2 GHz (one core), GPU: GT 440,. What is more important? CPU or GPU? Or I have both too weak?

CPU is more important.

Were you able to play the previous alpha without problems?

cpu

Certainly yes. After buying Geforce GT 440 I hoped, I can play this game on max details and with HDR lightning...how fast must be CPU to play without lags?

Well, the usual question first: do you have the latest nvidia driver? Your CPU should be just fine.

Yes. I've tested almost all version of drivers.

I've got more questions then 🙂

Does HDR off make a noticeable difference?

How about shaders off?

Does the situation matter, like being close to a city? Try debug starting point.

Does the intro screen lag as well?

Try two things for us if you could:

-press escape to bring up the options menu,

1) turn down city detail - does the framerate improve?

2) turn down terrain detail - does the framerate improve?

Also, if you leave it for a while does the framerate pick up after a while? Perhaps when the terrain has finished generating.

Oh and how much RAM do you have?

Nah thats not going to make much of a difference at all Im sorry to say. That card is good but Pioneer is very much CPU bound to the point of insanity. You'll have no trouble displaying the details, its just getting them calculated and on-screen in the first place thats the problem 🙂

If you bought the card to play Pioneer its not a total loss, as in the future the shaders and G-cards are only going to get more and more use as things are exported to shaders.

Try following FluffyFreak's and Luomu's advice and trying those couple of things.

You never know this may be a new bug. Although one thing strikes me as rather obvious in all this: You mentioned you had a single-core CPU, now pioneer always wants to use 2 cpus/threads unless told not to, so really it should act all slow like that and Im left wondering why in-fact it ran well before...

If you can compile your own copy from source you can easily fix this by removing the threading tag from wherever it is set 🙂 Brian(etta) knows more about this as he has had a similar problem before.

YES

IS BETTER

YES, IT'S BETTER AT DEBUG STARTING POINT

NO

YES

YES

it's variable. sometimes is for short time without lags, but after this game stutters.

2 GB RAM

No, I'm not a programmer. Could somebody compile such version without supoorts for two cores?

Here you go: Don't run with any details above medium or your asking for trouble 😉

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Missing files:

libvorbisfile.dll

libvorbis.dll

and after copying these files I've got a message: could not find entry point for procedure vorbis_window in library libvorbis.dll 🙁

Ah ok, I'll try to test this on a single-core machine tomorrow if it (the laptop) works.

The terrain generation and city rendering both seem CPU bound at the moment.

What the variable performance after a period of time hints at, to me, is that you're seriously CPU bottlenecked. This sounds like every time the game catches up on it's CPU work it has to suddenly do more because you've moved and the terrain once again must update.

There are things that in the future it'd be nice to do, like port the terrain generation to GPU (as an option), but that doesn't help you right now.

Best bet at the moment is turn down the city and terrain detail in the version that s20dan has built for you because the GPU might be able to render that much detail, but the CPU can't keep up with the generation side of it.

Yeah sorry about that here you go:

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I can't run it...after "simulation evolution of the universe countdown" is ended, game crash 🙁