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It is regrettable that has been released before correcting the horrible bug that makes it unusable on Linux with Intel video i3 and Nvidia video cards.

See https://github.com/pioneerspacesim/pioneer/issues/1411

I wouldn't call that unusable, the game still runs and it only happens if you deliberately fly close to a Brown Dwarf Star.

Unusable means that you cannot play the game rather than you get a bit of graphical mess <img src="' http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//wink3.gi f"' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

If for you this is a game "playable" we have different concepts of what is right and what is wrong.

See

And there is no "brown dwarf" nearby.

Its an alpha release. Its not playable by definition. And this is hardly a showstopper - its a highly situational graphical glitch that does not affect gameplay in the slightest and is not reliably reproducable.

Seriously, some (not all!) of you need to lower your expectations. There's a handful of people working on Pioneer, spending what little spare time we have trying to make a game. Smile, enjoy the couple of new things in this release and be happy. Or, grab the code, roll up your sleeves and fix something, or at least file a bug report. We'll get it all sorted out in the end. But carrying on just makes us sad and unmotivated, and that sucks.

More than two weeks ago that this failure is known. I never thought anyone would take in solving it. If you were not able to resolve it in time, for whatever reason, should not have released the A25 with all the pomp and the expectation that entails.

And it is really not able to reproduce the error. I have tested it in more than three different machines.

At least be able to recognize a mistake and not hide behind that blah, blah, blah ... [background=rgb(33, 47, 58)]and that sucks.[/background]

The severity of this bug was not known two weeks ago, or even today until you pointed it out after the release. The bug report indicated that it was only a problem close to brown dwarfs, and although multiple people looked at the problem (including you), no one commented to say that it happened more widely. It is unfortunate that it wasn't fixed before release, but sometimes problems slip through.

The problem has now been diagnosed, so hopefully someone will produce a fix in the next few days.

John B

John, I am aware that there are very few people working on the project. Rest assured that I will continue contributing my work and my observations. Next time, yell louder, but before the release version. I appreciate the seriousness that you print to Pioneer.

Oh please. Pioneer has loads of known bugs, many of them much worse than this one. Frankly I don't care if problems "slip through". Pioneer is in development. Its not finished. It doesn't pretend to be remotely close to usable, functional or playable. As the download page says, alpha snapshots are done as a courtesy to the community that supports us and encourage us because we know you all like to see what's been happening but can't always be downloading the code and building it yourselves.

We don't delay these snapshots. Ever. There's important reasons for that, including maintaining visibility and giving us clear targets to work towards. The alternative is to drop them entirely, which in some ways would make life easier, not least because of the amount of time it actually takes to do one of these releases.

When I wrote that, before the problem was diagnosed yesterday, my understanding was that it was not reproducable on Windows. The person most likely to understand and fix the bug develops on Windows. His inability to reproduce it makes it a more difficult thing to solve than a simpler bug that occurs everywhere.

Bullshit. There was no mistake. Pioneer has bugs. End of story. If a particular bug is really really important to you, then either fix it yourself or send me or someone else money, gifts or kind words so that they feel happy and motivated and fix it for you. If you can't do that then shut the fuck up and just try to just be happy that a bunch of people are working hard to make something nice for you.

Hi im new to this game and the forum and befor i go any further i just want to say WOW you have created the game i have been looking for since my amiga died so long ago. my cousin showed me this about 4 days ago (the alpha24 version) and i was hooked straight away. thismorning i realised that you had released alpha 25 and so i grabed it straight away but (and this is why im posting) im getting an 'Error compiling shader: shaders/geosphere'. as it stands im runing on a prity bad gfx card so im happy to except that there may be nothing i can do about this and will have to wait till i can aford some better hardware but if there is a simple fix or workaround for this could somone please point me in the right direction.

any help is much appreciated and once again WOW this is a great game that will most likely suck away all of my free time.

"blah, blah, blah...[background=rgb(33, 47, 58)]then shut the fuck up"[/background]

Oh, I never would ask anyone that. It would be stupid on my part. Clownish say.

Obviously you can not handle anything.

Unfortunately there are more bugs, which were not present on 24 - almost no atmosphere on Jupiter! But on Venus ... pressure at milions of atmospheres. I am also noticed similar artifacts like walterar mentioned - when I begin to shoot at Long Range Cruiser parked over one particular starport - its hull began to glow very brightly. It had nothing to do with shields glowing and LRC had no shields at all, it was different kind of glow. Two bugs I just mention occured on Win7 32bit, with Nvidia 6200 AGP card, latest stable nvidia drivers. So I will be stick to alpha 24 for the next month.

Both the lighting glitches and the atmosphere pressure bug have been fixed in the latest development build. The missing atmospheres on gas giants has been known for a few weeks and is tracked in issue #1395.

I'm just getting alpha 25 modded up to my specifications and here you go with another build! <img src="' http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//tease.gi f"' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Seriously, good work. Thanks! <img src="' http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//biggrin.gi f"' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

Well its mostly alpha 25 + two bugfixes. You'll be fine <img src="' http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//wink3.gi f"' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

Robn good job, a25 does not exist, but the problems have been resolved.

Do not forget to send the bill so they send the check. <img src="' http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//fan_1.gi f"' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

I have to really highlight stability after many hours of actual game. The visual differences are remarkable.

And there is no way to break it. <img src="' http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//icon_e_smile.gi f"' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

I am referring to the new, ¿pre alpha 26 or alpha 25.1?

You can download it from here http://sourceforge.net/projects/pioneerspacesim/files/nightly/

It was every bit as stable before, just a bit uglier. And its a nightly/dev build. Call it "26 dev" if you like, but remember that its a moving target - there will be more dev builds before 26 proper, and they might (but hopefully won't) be utterly broken <img src="' http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//icon_e_smile.gi f"' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

Wow. Did we just receive a broadcast from planet Troll or what?!

Great effort once again guys. Adulation and appreciation tight beaming now from my humble gap courier...

oh my goodness walterar can you come down from your egoism?

robn is trying to bring a good game to us and he has a life and things to do, you cannot demand something to be changed like your the boss or something

you can only make a bug report and that's it and the developers will try to address it.

jeez can you mature a little bit?

Zephyros, I do not think robn need your help. Try to learn more. Greetings.

Robn, the problem is the reference of the mods. But you can solve with A25/26.

I don't know what you're referring to.

I mean the collection of mods that I have ready for alpha 25.

But better to postpone to alpha 26. They will be more refined. <img src="' http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//good.gi f"' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />