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Galaxias

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(@songbird)
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Came upon this Elite-like clone; "Galaxias" Indie and shareware with a working demo can be found here:

http://www.jexea.co.uk/Galaxias/Home.html

The game boasts the following:

3D space trading and combat PC game.

A thousand solar systems and over 3500 planets spread over 27 sectors

On-board navigation database

Ship upgrades

Space Station docking

Asteroid mining

Discover new worlds

18 missions

It is visually well done and not bad, not bad at all 😀

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Topic starter Posted : October 8, 2010 14:18
DarkOne
(@sscadmin)
Illustrious Member Admin

As always Songbird good find. Will have this added to the game listing.

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Posted : October 8, 2010 20:10
(@songbird)
Trusted Member

it's a simple once-a-month game I play: one search phrase on Google and go to images. Scroll at a fast pace. You'll notice what is new quickly. 😆 😆

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Topic starter Posted : October 8, 2010 20:54
(@pinback)
99 Star General

Good find songbird, but I would question why anyone would want to pay £20 quid for it when you have Oolite for free?
I really don't think you can sell this type of game on the pc now there's just too many free one around although there is still a market on the consoles and phones for this type of game.

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Posted : October 10, 2010 04:11
 OSH
(@osh)
Estimable Member

And I agree with you PINBACK...I understand, all want money, but in this case...

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Posted : October 10, 2010 12:29
(@songbird)
Trusted Member

I admire the creator's vision, but perhaps (GULP) he's not heard of Oolite...

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Topic starter Posted : October 11, 2010 18:40
(@pinback)
99 Star General

You might not be far off the track there Songbird I can think of one other Elite clone that was abandoned after the author found out about Oolite.

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Posted : October 12, 2010 00:36
(@galaxias2000)
Eminent Member

Hi

I'm the designer and devleloper of Galaxias. This project represents 2 years work, a lot of it full time. So you'll understand that giving it away does not appeal.

For me the market is quite small. The "hard Elite fan". You know, someone who prefers sim and stategy to shoot-em-up. They'll have a playstation but get bored and prefer to be immersed in a more gentle kind of role play without the cachophony.

OK now the price. The thought that screams out to me is "there're talking about the worth of this game ... but no-one has actually played it! It's a bit chicken and egg.The problem is that ... well what is software worth? ... you can't tell until you use it. The demo doesn't tell half the story.

However, from comments here and others it appears in retrospect the the current price is real barrier. Therefore the price has been reduced to £10 (4 pints of beer, 8L of petrol, 1.6 packets of cigarettes)

Re: Oolite. I did look at the game (some time ago it has to be said) and found it practically unplayable (I prefered Pinder's "The New Kind") It seems as though the game has evolved considerably however I still feel that Galaxias has appeal and could find its place in the field.

There is a newer, improved version on the close horizon (about a week).

www.jexea.co.uk

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Posted : October 13, 2010 01:34
(@pinback)
99 Star General

Think you made the right decision about the price Galaxias200

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Posted : October 15, 2010 06:15
(@songbird)
Trusted Member

I did play with the Demo, and in fairness it is very well done game. At the risk of having tomatoes thrown at me for the suggestion, I love mouse controls.... 😀

Price is never an issue if a game is good and I'll likely add this one to my collection. Time can be a barrier though...

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Topic starter Posted : October 15, 2010 14:07
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
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Galaxias2000 wrote:
OK now the price. The thought that screams out to me is "there're talking about the worth of this game ... but no-one has actually played it! It's a bit chicken and egg.The problem is that ... well what is software worth? ... you can't tell until you use it. The demo doesn't tell half the story.

Firstly welcome to the SSC 🙂

This is a fair point you make, even though Oolite is out there, your game deserves a try out. So I am not going to say anything else until I have given the demo a go. I should point out here though, that I do love Oolite to bits....

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Posted : October 15, 2010 14:47
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
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Ok gave the demo a try. First thing that struck me was how big the download was, over 200 megs. Good! Lots of content then. On inspection I found out there are a lot of textures in the game, but I almost flew into a star thinking it was a planet. May I suggest changing the star texture? Everything is clearly laid out and like Galaxias said, it's clearly aimed at the Elite hardcore fan who is not interested in all the bells and whistles, but just wants a "purer" Elite experience. The ships are brightly coloured which reminded me of the Amiga version and the sounds are simply done with shades of the original BBC version as well as Elite The New Kind which I also have. It's a nice retro styled Elite game. That's my honest opinion. Still trying to figure out this waypoint system for docking or perhaps docking is not allowed in the demo version?.

Is it better than Oolite? Well that depends on your point of view. It doesn't do anything better than Oolite and can't touch it for looks either, but it does have a charm all of it's own. I think for someone who has worked just by themselves on this, it's a job well done. But room for some little improvements. Would not change too much though if you want to maintain the "purity" of the game. Maybe have another think about the docking part of the game. I think you need to streamline that a bit. I wouldn't want to be stuck at a waypoint as I feel I would be a sitting duck if there was hostile ships nearby. Will take another look at your up and coming updated version demo. Keep at it Galaxis! 🙂

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Posted : October 16, 2010 02:33
(@galaxias2000)
Eminent Member

Thank for you comments.

Improved star look is already on the wish list they need "glare".

FYI you can dock and trade (with other planets in the Siaka system) in demo mode. It's a bit slow without x16 time rate.

Going to other systems is even possible but takes forever without hyperspace jump or time rate acceleration. Can't save the game either. The other thing you can do is to massacre the poor defenceless shuttle craft and use the containers that result as target practice.

The new version has:-

Ships more intelligent in combat

New, improved hyperspace graphics effect

Now, 3 levels of difficulty (Easy, Normal, Hard)

Keyboard delay time and repeat rate added to the Launchpad

Station orientation incorrect when jumping very close to planet - fixed

If a ship enters into combat having passed the "From Space" waypoint the docking port is locked up - fixed.

Station now responds if you fire a missle at it

Unkown stars; under certain conditions the navigation screen showed the name - fixed

Unfortunately none of this will be visible in the demo

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Posted : October 16, 2010 23:44
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
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Good! Glad your going to take a look at the stars texturing. Perhaps make them like the ones on the amiga version with the outer edges constantly moving. I always liked that effect. Also the docking, perhaps put nav buoys at the way points? Would give you something to lock onto to? Nothing complicated just something like two brightly coloured triangles stuck together. Remember and let us know when your new version is available. I will give that a try out too. Oh well, back to X Beyond The Frontier, what a slog that game is! 😕

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Posted : October 17, 2010 08:31
(@galaxias2000)
Eminent Member

V1.0.1 is now released. I quoted a list of improvements above. However, 2 comments

I suggest you leave the default keyboard delay and rate at zero (ie off) unless:

You're really keen on keyboard controls and don't mind tweaking.

The User Guide has not yet been updated to reflect this change.

One comment I've had about the demo is that it's bit hard to tackle the pirates. I didn't do it on purpose but by chance you just happen to be by a Dictatorship ... it's calmer at Corporates and Democracies (but worse at Anarchies)

Staying nearish to the space station will reduce the numbers of pirates.

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Posted : October 19, 2010 07:44
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
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Good! 🙂 I will download it and try it out. Thanks for keeping us updated Galaxias

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Posted : October 19, 2010 08:30
(@galaxias2000)
Eminent Member

Is anyone else having trouble with Gamepad being too fast?

The keyboard issue is work-in-progress, so I'll leave that alone for the minute.

Since docking has been mentioned a couple of times, I think it deserves a reply. At the risk of repeating stuff in the user guide ,,,, the station radar gives you the course to each waypoint (the yellow circle). Just aligne the yellow circle in the centre of the station compass and when you get to within a distance of about 10 you'll hear a bing and it switches to the next waypoint. Target the next waypoint etc and dock. Go slow.

re: hostile ships attacking during this procedure. They'll only attack if they've been actively following you from way out.You need to deal with them (or hope that the police do) before starting on the approach to docking.

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Posted : October 21, 2010 00:08
(@songbird)
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Mouse for x, y axis? As it Elite plus...

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Topic starter Posted : October 21, 2010 15:41
(@galaxias2000)
Eminent Member

OK, Songbird I'll take the bait. I did play Elite Plus with a mouse once (I think) and for me it was a nightmare. Can't remember how it worked, though.

Did a little test with Galaxias and it works (at least with XP). You can even fire with the mouse buttons ... but what's the best way to control the direction.

The test I did was as follows: theres a small dead space in the target crosshairs nothing happens here.

To the left of this you roll left to the right right etc

So bottom and left pitches down and rolls left.

Another way would be for the direction to follow the mouse pointer .. my prefered ... but I haven't even thought how to implement this.

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Posted : October 22, 2010 09:20
(@songbird)
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I'm one of those lazy folk that has to use the keyboard a lot at work and wants to just keep one hand on the mouse... please... 😀

If you bite on at least the x and y axis I'll reel-in the game 😉

If you ever figure-out the mouse point-direction aspect that would be awesome!

But the Elite Plus system would be just fine... 😉 😉

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Topic starter Posted : October 22, 2010 16:22
(@songbird)
Trusted Member

Back again.

Expect an e-mail. I'll buy the game. x, y, and mouse-button firing works as a starting point. Darkone; I'll see you in Galaxias 😀

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Topic starter Posted : October 22, 2010 16:31
(@galaxias2000)
Eminent Member

For a demonstration of how to dock:- check out the video with annoations. (30MB ... sorry about that)

http://www.jexea.co.uk/Download/Home.html

This video has been moved to youtube and is called "Galaxias First Flight"

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Posted : October 24, 2010 02:45
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
Famed Member

Why don't you upload your video to You Tube Galaxias? Would perhaps help to get more people interested in it? Certainly helped the Elite2-a-like Pioneer I think 😉

You should put some more details on how to get the game on there too as your web site is only on the screen for a few moments in the demo.

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Posted : October 24, 2010 06:11
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
Famed Member

Finally managed to dock! 😀 But crashed when leaving 🙁 Will keep trying through 😉

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Posted : October 24, 2010 07:59
(@galaxias2000)
Eminent Member

Didn't want it on for too long .. it's a bit of a teaser 😉 Anyone interested can always find the site in a jiffy.

You're right it has generated a bit of interest. Not as much as spacesimcentral though.

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Posted : October 24, 2010 08:02
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