[Sticky] UFO's and Conspiracy

A "Galactic Federation" of aliens has been in contact with the U.S. and Israel for years, but humanity isn't ready to know, according to former Israeli space security chief Haim Eshed. Eshed, who was the head of Israel's space security program for nearly 30 years, told Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth that the cooperation between the U.S. and the Galactic Federation includes an underground base on Mars.

What of the Empire? Who's co-operating with them?

Have you just replied to a eleven year old post or have I missed some thing here.

Time warp.

I get my foil hat. 😀 

Posted by: @pinback

Have you just replied to a eleven year old post

Yep! I'm rather proud if it too! If you're gonna necro, do it properly!

Nice one Cody 😊 

Looks like the US congress is getting a report in June on these increasing UFO sightings, going to be interesting to see what they have to say about it. 

They're huge bats which have escaped from a lab in China!

Posted by: @cody

They're huge bats which have escaped from a lab in China!

Nah space Nazi. 🤣 

I forgot to respond to this, but personally I am glad that the govt is finally admitting some of these occurrences are really happening. It would be great if we could get actual soldier testimony from the sailors on that ship. You have to admit that a UAP flying and dipping into the water and coming back out again.... we as far as I know don't have that tech. So its obvious that we are dealing with some sweet tech if it is a countries latest tech. 

Maybe we know why Trump created the space force because he probably got some of these briefings and his generals said it ain't us sir.... 😉 haha

Nice video on this too:

Governmental 'Tic Tac' report ...

lol. Business as usual.

"We got no evidence either way" (ie: keep guessing) 

Well what ever it is, theirs something going on.

In relation to those 'Tic Tac' navy cases. I'll go with 'human imagination going in overdrive' ... after taking a look at a related post at metabunk.org

Non the wiser.

"... Better detection ..." Always gets me thinking.

We now got cheap high definition mini cameras and cheap mini computers. Which should make it possible to design some usable, and cheap, general 24/7 sky observation unit.

But, on the other hand. Even general high definition cameras are still kinda poor in close-up details if there covering a full dome.

ESO webcam source image (4k*4k)

(Little dot near the moon is probably Jupiter)

Hmm... no surprises there, but I'd like to read the other report which hasn't been made public.

Just watched a Tv programme about the early days of arear 51 and the secret projects that were tested their as in the U2 and Blackbird and how they gave rise to the UFO sighting around the base, which they did nothing to discourage. 

So some of these recent reports maybe down to secret American projects being tested against their own military without telling the military about. 

I wonder if the Russians have similar reports. In WWII, foo fighters bothered all sides, not just the Allies!

Some news from the other side of the fence of potential possibilities.

The NEW Warp Drive Possibilities, PBS Space Time - 21 Apr 2021.

My background idea being here that, If there was only one definitely proofed case of some unknown craft doing virtual (for us) practical impossible moves. It could be a nice indication that there is some potentially practical useful solution to our warp drive problem. 🙂

Doing that argument the other way around would work to, but that seems way less likely to happen than the first case.

A good place to throw in some UFO conspiracy-based sci-fi: Projekt Saucer by W. A. Harbinson is a very good read.

Harbinson's decade of UFO research for the "Projekt Saucer" series was used as the basis for his non-fiction book Projeckt UFO: The Case for Man-Made Flying Saucers

I see this has kicked off again in the last few days.

... Mmmm

It seems to me its more about any (did he say "many" ?) potential (security) threats. And so far it seems limited to only UAP (... why do they always feel the need for new acronyms) reports from the military.

On the FTL subject:

A bit of a downer, but a scientifically sound conclusion.

(3 Apr 2022)

There still might be some 'potential' escape clause. ... As in: As long as you don't create any time (cause & effect) paradoxes ... you still might be able to get away with it. (quantum mechanics rules. ... *miauw* 😉 )

Granted at the moment their maybe no way to go FTL but who knows in 100 or 1000 years from now, science always changes.

Sure, science evolves. But the rules nature sets don't. And that "no time (cause & effect) paradoxes" seems a solid hard rule that nature seems to protects with a vengeance.

One reason why I think 'serious' UFO/UAP research would be a good thing (other than finding out about stuff we overlooked or dismissed). Is in relation to "If we are being visited by other civilizations/(aliens)" ... how did they get here ?

I mean. If FTL is a no go, traveling between stars is a inherent slow process. Even with near light speed travel and hibernation in play, returning home might be a bit of a gamble (it might not be there anymore, as time did not slowed down for them). But ... if we are being visited/explored ... it could give us some clue's on the potential of FTL (and/or other things).

I know .. Its a bit of a long shot. 🙂

'serious' UFO research: That excludes in my view more or less all those, now a days, Discovery/History/etc channel series about related subjects. 🤒 

Posted by: @mvgulik

Sure, science evolves. But the rules nature sets don't.

That ain't necessarily so! So far, some rules seem set in stone, but who knows...

Posted by: @cody

Posted by: @mvgulik

Sure, science evolves. But the rules nature sets don't.

That ain't necessarily so! So far, some rules seem set in stone, but who knows...

Would that not fall under "science evolves" ? ie: not knowing yet what we don't know yet.

Any real change in the rules of nature (as far as we think we know them) are probably a unwelcome thing. So far I know of only one potential case where the rules would change (massively) and that would be a phase transition(phys.org 2013), ... which is of course of no use to any life in the universe.

Although the new calculations predict that a collapse is now more likely than ever before, it is actually also possible, that it will not happen at all. It is a prerequisite for the phase change that the universe consists of the elementary particles that we know today, including the Higgs particle. If the universe contains undiscovered particles, the whole basis for the prediction of phase change disappears.