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Empyrean wrote:
And by the time Infinity comes out, I'm going to need man-diapers 😆

😆 😆

Infinity well named as it is the infinite wait. 😆

Still can't see an online version of the x games working,as I can't see it bringing anything new to the table that you can't find in one of the other online games.It would need some hook to get people interested and Egosoft are far too cautious a deveolper to make any sort of bold leap.


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Man diapers 😆

Depending on the tools they are using Pinback, a level designer can also be for campaign work as well not always actual levels like in a RTS. I would hope they don't go that route personally, since they already have a good base to work from. Now they just need to expand the game to more action in combat, more interaction on the ships/stations, possible planet landings. I wouldn't mind seeing a MMO from Egosoft but it would need to offer some good stuff to compete with all the others out there.

When is GDC? October?


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Darkone wrote:

When is GDC? October?

August 19th-21st if I remember right.

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I can't see it bringing anything new to the table that you can't find in one of the other online games

Interesting, because I think it could - although there are games I haven't heard of. Vendetta Online is too small, EVE Online is a point ' n ' click game, BP and JGE are centered around combat, and so on.

I can't find a real sandbox space-MMO that is not EVE 🙁


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Darkone wrote:

Depending on the tools they are using Pinback, a level designer can also be for campaign work as well not always actual levels like in a RTS.

Had a look on the guys web site he says his main skill is level designs for ARPG,RTS,FPS games and dont think it stretching it too far to say it might be a RTS or 4x game,after all CCP are doing Dust which is a FPS set in the Eve universe.Given the fact that Egosoft has spent ten years doing one game,will they do some thing totally new.

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I can't find a real sandbox space-MMO that is not EVE 🙁

Are Egosoft capable of doing anything like that,I have always found the xgames to be rather linear.


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PINBACK wrote:
Given the fact that Egosoft has spent ten years doing one game,will they do some thing totally new.

IIRC they did say that they're done with the X-series, but not with the X-Universe. Which isn't really bad; a game set in the Terran Colonisation, Terraformer War, or sometime near the Old Ones. Same universe, but still very different.

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I can't find a real sandbox space-MMO that is not EVE 🙁

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Are Egosoft capable of doing anything like that,I have always found the xgames to be rather linear.

Linear in what way? Okay, the exploration part is limited, but you can do everything else, and the only thing that limits it is the fact that it's still a singleplayer game.


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My impression is There is only one path through the game and which ever star position you chose,you will always end up having to manage a fleet of ships and stations,as there is simply no other way to progress in the game.Any attempt to do any thing different just leave you in a dead end.


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PINBACK wrote:
Empyrean wrote:
And by the time Infinity comes out, I'm going to need man-diapers 😆

😆 😆

Infinity well named as it is the infinite wait. 😆

Careful now, Pinback. Remember what happened to Duke Nukem Forever.... 😕

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My impression is There is only one path through the game and which ever star position you chose,you will always end up having to manage a fleet of ships and stations,as there is simply no other way to progress in the game.Any attempt to do any thing different just leave you in a dead end.

That's my impression as well. In something like Frontier you at least had a choice, some variety, in how you wanted to progress. In the X games you HAVE to trade like a total mofo to get anywhere. I bought Terran conflict about a month ago but despite repeated attempts just cannot face getting into that whole grinding treadmill again. It would be nice if they could provide an options that starts you off with a large established company so you could at least jump into the universe without having to worry about making thirty seven runs just to be able to afford that next equipment upgrade or hull repair. But no. 😥


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Stardreamer wrote:

Careful now, Pinback. Remember what happened to Duke Nukem Forever.... 😕

Elite 4 😕 😕

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That's my impression as well. In something like Frontier you at least had a choice, some variety, in how you wanted to progress. In the X games you HAVE to trade like a total mofo to get anywhere.

OHNO the energy cell trading in the x games Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I want to be Han Solo not the ceo of a coporation

AH Frontiers One of the things I love doing in Frontiers is taking off from olympus village flying over the city then through the clouds and up the side of olympus mons.switching to the rear view and watching the whole view recede as you fly into space

IT BEEN 17 YEARS NOW,When is anyone ever going to do a new version. 😥

Anyhow,what was this thread about,AH yes what new game those Lederhosen wearing muppets at Egosoft might do next.

IMHO I think a RTS game set in the x universe would be right up Egosoft street,just think of the micro management Possibilities,Egosoft could go nuts with it. 😆


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In the X games you HAVE to trade like a total mofo to get anywhere.

The problem is that either you guys are too bad or I'm too good 😆 I pirated myself to a freakin' billionaire in X3R (TC is for pussies as I already wrote) without touching an ECell for the purpose of trading. But - then again - we all have different views of life.

And before you ask: NO! I do not own every tittle of X 5 times (only 4)! 😆 😎

On topic, I still believe they're making some sort of MMO, since Bernd stated a few years ago on GDC that they are going to make an X-Online. The "X-Fans" like EgoSoft because it's the only company that REGULARLY make a spacesim and is available in english globally. If Egosoft would walk down from this path, they'd be in biiig trouble.


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I still believe they're making some sort of MMO, since Bernd stated a few years ago on GDC that they are going to make an X-Online.

Well you know what devs are like say one thing then they do some thing else. 🙄

Then there the cost of doing a MMO Proberly runs into a few million to get one up and running and they not always successful.Would Egosoft really take a chance like that. ❓


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PINBACK wrote:
Would Egosoft really take a chance like that. ❓

Without risk there's no reward 😉 And they wouldn't be developing games if it wouldn't be profitable.

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Well you know what devs are like say one thing then they do some thing else.

Good point. Developers are like wives only in a safe distance 🙂


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Good point. Developers are like wives only in a safe distance 🙂

😆

Ok heres my IMO on what Egosoft might do

1 - A RTS,4X game set in the X universe.

2 - More of the same just different X universe setting.

3 - A new game no connection to the X universe.

4 - A MMO set in the x universe.

5 - A console game in the X universe.


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PINBACK wrote:

1 - A RTS,4X game set in the X universe.

Kill it! Kill it with fire!!!!!!!!!!

PINBACK wrote:

2 - More of the same just different X universe setting.

3 - A new game no connection to the X universe.

4 - A MMO set in the x universe.

Gimme gimme gimme a game after midnight....

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5 - A console game in the X universe.

I'd better start saving some money for a console and a HDTV. 👿

Anywhoo, what ever they make, I hope they'll announce it soon.


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Who read the X encyclopedia that came with the X superbox according to the box there are hints within it pages as to Egosoft next game.

Iam not too familiar with the background to the x games but having a look through it there seems to be a lot of talk about ancients and that 1000 years period after the first war also some thing about the gates having shut down. could they be thing of doing a game without gates. 😮


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A new X game with a procedurally generated universe would be great and I have to admit I have always enjoyed their art style and large in your face models. But if they do make it a really open game they have to limit the management of the game a bit. Because if they don't games would take forever to complete 🙂


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what I would love is some kind of RTS or transport tycoon type of layer on top of the normal X games, so you get 2 games in one. The idea of trading/building/commanding AND being able to fly your own ship is what draws many people to this game, but the interface/implementation for the building/commanding part is just absolutely horrendous. If that part was more of a Homeworld type of interface, with the information windows of a transport tycoon game I think I would truly die of happiness. And if they could make the combat more like freespace 2 then I. I... I don't even have words to describe how happy I would be 🙂


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Very good point there Braindead. I think I would as well enjoy the X games a lot more if the building and commanding portion of the game was RTS based and simple to use. It could almost be a sub-system of the game. You bring up a management window and you just drag-drop assets and set routes/settings for your buildings/units. Perfect!


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I think you two should be playing Eve. 😆

Getting rid of the of the stupid north gate south gate nonsense would be a huge improvement to the game.


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I actually played EVE for a couple of months, and although I can see why people like this game so much, it didn't do "it" for me. I did think it was more fun then WoW and a boatload of WoW copy/paste MMO's (still waiting for GW2, and perhaps Perpetuum if that turn out to be fun. open beta start 18th btw)

and I think the reason they have those n/e/s/w gates is just so u get a nice gridlike flat galaxy map. I can accept games doing stuff like that out of practicality. It's just the guy that thought the UI was good that needs to be taken out into the woods and shot...


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I think you two should be playing Eve. 😆

Ok Pinback your got me... I might be a lazy gamer at times. But I don't play games to really work at it either, I like some difficulty and frustration. But repetitiveness and boring spells in games makes me not complete them. I don't think I have ever completed a X series game at all. I have played them all, but eventually I do get bored and the biggest culprit is the fleet/economic building. If it was more streamlined I would probably play to completion.

I agree having seamless travel with no gates would be great and just use that drive they got now is sufficient (think it is time compression they use actually).

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still waiting for GW2, and perhaps Perpetuum if that turn out to be fun

Never heard of Perpetuum and it actually looks interesting at first glance. May need to see if I can play in that beta. GW2 on the other hand is a pre-order for me. I will post a nice write up on that because that game is truly gonna smoke SWTOR.


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Darkone wrote:

Ok Pinback your got me... I might be a lazy gamer at times. But I don't play games to really work at it either, I like some difficulty and frustration. But repetitiveness and boring spells in games makes me not complete them. I don't think I have ever completed a X series game at all. I have played them all, but eventually I do get bored and the biggest culprit is the fleet/economic building. If it was more streamlined I would probably play to completion.

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Your not the only one I would also say that is the biggest problem that I have with the X game as well.


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PINBACK wrote:
Your not the only one I would also say that is the biggest problem that I have with the X game as well.

Believe it or not I am still on the first one! 😯 But I got the X-Superbox so I am determined to resist my nasty game jumping habit and finish it. This is not about entertainment anymore, it's more like a grim determination 👿 . I may not be around for a while........


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PINBACK wrote:
Who read the X encyclopedia that came with the X superbox according to the box there are hints within it pages as to Egosoft next game.

Iam not too familiar with the background to the x games but having a look through it there seems to be a lot of talk about ancients and that 1000 years period after the first war also some thing about the gates having shut down. could they be thing of doing a game without gates. 😮

IIRC The humans are the ancients and they built the gate system. They had these artificial terraformer ships. They become the Zenon, the zenon waged war kicked human arse.

During the war or at the end of the war or something, some ship led by that dude Nathan R Gunn lured away the zenon through a gate away from earth before they could attack, then earth destroyed the gate sealing them away.

They destroyed the gate on the other side too, but there were still hundreds of other gates that they didn't destroy which are all the gates in the game you see.

R Gunn ship crashed or just landed, either they bred with some species or just the survivers became the Argon (R Gunn 🙄 )

1000 years or so later x:btf starts and the others follow from that.

Sadly enough I actually remembered that and didn't have to google it 🙄

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Believe it or not I am still on the first one! 😯 But I got the X-Superbox so I am determined to resist my nasty game jumping habit and finish it. This is not about entertainment anymore, it's more like a grim determination 👿 . I may not be around for a while........

I remember cheating a lot on the first one 🙂 Using a hex editor.

I seem to remember that Q-tubes are really proffitable... but that may even be in X2.

If you find the battles hard get more engine tunings as I dont think theres a limit in the first game.


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IIRC The humans are the ancients and they built the gate system. They had these artificial terraformer ships. They become the Zenon, the zenon waged war kicked human arse.

During the war or at the end of the war or something, some ship led by that dude Nathan R Gunn lured away the zenon through a gate away from earth before they could attack, then earth destroyed the gate sealing them away.

They destroyed the gate on the other side too, but there were still hundreds of other gates that they didn't destroy which are all the gates in the game you see.

R Gunn ship crashed or just landed, either they bred with some species or just the survivers became the Argon (R Gunn 🙄 )

1000 years or so later x:btf starts and the others follow from that.

If I read the encyclopaedia right the Ancients are not humans, the Ancients have been around for billion of years (shades of babylon5).They built the gate system which has millions of gates in it to help the younger races and to prevent them from developing jump drives.

When earth was sealed off after the Terraformer war the colonist who were left out side abandoned there colony word and went through the gate system and found the X universe, they them became the Argon found in the first game.

The bit about the gates shutting down is on page B-30 it says

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it then waffles on a bit and say that 16 years later the Boron were able to send messenger drones to the other races although the gates remain inoperative and the

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“Alliance of worlds”

was formed. As there no time line in the book this might be referring to some thing else

Or is it something which happens after the events in X3TC. ❓


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Your right, looks like I got confused with stargate or something 🙂

Heres the time line taken from here http://argonopedia.ppcis.org/histmenu.php

-5000000000

The first species of the "Old Ones" comes into existence

-3200000000

Species from the outer galaxies of the universe begin to form the community of the Old Ones

-1500000000

Great War against the Outsiders (a species supposedly coming from outside the universe)

-1000000000

The community of the Old Ones solidifies to the form still in existence to the present day.

They start building jump gates.

They map the galaxy

Earth’s star system is not being visited for unknown reasons. The planet that would in the future house the Terran race.

-500000000

The first completely mechanical species (The Sohnen) is being promoted members of the Old Ones. From then on they are the executive members of the Old Ones.

-50000

A fleet of ships land on the Boron homeworld and begin to study the species. They are discovered by the indigenous race (the Boron) and begin to provide knowledge. They are known as the "Helpers".

1969

Neil Armstrong sets foot on the moon as the first human on another world.

1992

Prof. Eudgene Podkletnov and Prof. Nieminen (University of Tampere, Finland) discover a way to shield gravity. The measured effect is very small (objects lose only about 0,2% weight) but shows the way. The scientists are disrespected for their work and the results are being withdrawn from the public.

1999

NASA’s Break Through Propulsion Physics Program investigates and confirms the results. This is not made public.

Japanese economical crisis is building up; first Japanese banks crash

2007

Japanese economy at their lowest point. Many of the rich Japanese people flee to other countries.

International Space Station becomes fully operational.

2011

Quantum computers are dominating the market.

Nano technology is now near practical usability.

Japan is slowly recovering from it’s economical crisis, becoming Earth’s center of technological research and science.

2022

Japanese language, besides english, has now become one of the most important languages in the world (and the preferred language of science)

A student at the university of Tokyo (Ashizava Kazuko) accidentally discovers the jump gate principle while doing other theoretical research.

2024

First experiments with small artificial singularities show practicability of jump gate principle.

2036

The first two large, space based jumpgates are being finished and tested between Earth and Mars orbit.

2037

One of the jumpgates is being sent to Alpha Centauri, scheduled for arrival in approximately 78 years.

Jump tests are being undertaken while the the gate is on it’s way.

2041

The Earth gate accidentally loses lock on the 2nd gate that is on it’s way to Alpha Centauri. While re-establishing the lock, scientists find out, that the Earth gate tends to lock on random locations throughout the galaxy.

It is discovered, that these locations are jump gates of alien origin.

The Old Ones eventually take notice of Earth, when Earth gate locks to one of their own gates. This is not according to their long-term plans, but those plans are now changed slightly. Jump gates throughout the galaxy are being reconfigured immediately, to form a maze of many solar systems that are void of intelligent life. Humans / Terrans are recognized as extremely dangerous – and dangerously intelligent.

2042

On earth, there are now almost no international conflicts anymore, only national problems. Ecological problems are slowly getting under control.

Unmanned probes are sent from the Earth gate through the alien gates; results are promising, but unsatisfying, since the probes are not intelligent enough.

The Nations agree to send a manned expedition through the alien jump gates as soon as possible.

2043

Start building the research spacecraft Winterblossom.

Message drones are being invented just to establish comms between the Winterblossom and Earth.

2046

The Winterblossom starts to explore space and solar systems beyond earth gate. Aboard the ship are 12 scientists of all areas, led by the space veteran Capt. René Farnham, which is a scientist himself.

2048

The Winterblossom returns to Earth after a 2 year journey (which is 1 year longer than originally planned). They report to have found a system of dozens or hundreds of alien jumpgates but no intelligent alien lifeforms whatsoever, and no hints thereof, except the gates themselves. But there seem to be many planets that might be colonized and/or terraformed.

A discussion amongst politicians suggests a budget for a Space Force in case of unfriendly alien contact.

Also, the possibilities of terraforming is being talked through.

2059

The first ship of the new founded international Space Force (USC, United Space Command) is stationed in Earth orbit to protect the planet from possible dangers (alien attacks are not publicly named as not to disturb the people). Nobody really believes in danger, except some paranoid military minorities.

2062

Scientists, and not much later their families, colonize the first man-made stations outside the solar system.

2063

Building of a giant trade complex/metropolitan near longitude 0 is finished. It has two space stations. More than 100 million people are living and working there.

Everyone is speaking Japanese; from there, japanese is being taking to the stars.

Earth economy and ecology thrives; becoming better and better.

There are no large scale wars on Earth any longer.

2066

The first terraformer fleet (six robot ships) leaves earth.

Every 3 years, a new Terraformer fleet leaves earth.

2069

First planet/station created by a TF fleet is manned by Terrans.

Gen- and nano technology eliminates most of the plagues of mankind.

2084

The first terraformer fleet capable of reproducing leaves earth.

2094

There are 23 USC war ships; they are in an extremely bad shape. 5 are not functional at all and are in a high parking orbit over earth.

2099

Terraforming project is cancelled; no new Terraformer fleets are being built.

Not all of the existing Terraformer fleets can be reached via message drones and thus continue reproducing and terraforming; nobody on Earth knows this.

World wide unemployment is below 7% now. There is no hunger anymore on earth, and no 3rd world countries.

Everyone speaks a modern form of Japanese as their second or first language.

2115

The 2nd man built jump gate reaches Alpha Centauri and becomes fully operational; but it is not really needed, since Alpha Centauri has two alien jumpgates of it’s own.

The 2nd Planet of Alpha Centauri, called Taurus, quickly becomes the largest colony outside the solar system with nearly 100.000 colonists. The planet has atmosphere, plants and many natural resources.

A software update for the remaining few Terraformer (which were discontinued for more than 15 years already) is sent out via message drones and radio and reaches more terraformers fleets than are still known to exist. They also distribute the update amongst each other.

This software update, maintained sloppily and carelessly, introduces several major design flaws, which were never in the original software.

2145

Completely unexpected, a fleet of 6 Terraformers (almost forgotten now) enters solar system and tries to terraform the inner planets including earth, mining resources and building stations, thereby starting to destroy man built structures.

2146 Goto The Terraformer Wars

The Terraformers war devastates earth and most colonies. In the end, Nathan R. Gunne is able to lure the main part of the Terraformers fleet through the earth gate, which is being destroyed afterwards, so the Terraformers cannot return to earth, saving all Terrans on the surface from destruction.

There is almost no space flight on earth for several hundred years to come, and it is not being considered to build a jump gate again.

2147 -23 Goto N. R. Gunne : Final Log

The plans of the Old Ones, already endangered by Earth inventing jump gates on their own, are now finally toppled by the raging Terraformer fleet. To construct a working community of species, able to survive - including survival of the Terraformer -, the Old Ones take the only option: They reconfigure jump gate routes of many star systems and many species, to form a closed loop where nobody can get in or out. Only species which have encountered the Terraformer before during those past 80 years, are inside this loop. This is the day, when the "X-Universe“ is actually being created (=“stitched together“).

The Teladi home planet Ianamus Zura and one of it’s lesser colonies are separated by the changed jump gate routes. There is not much space flight and technical knowledge left on this teladian colony.

2170 0

After it becomes more and more clear, that no return to earth will be possible, ever, the government of the exiled humans agrees to purge Earth from the immediate history books to start with a new era.

Many people are unhappy with this decision.

2184 14

A large planet, about 12 jumps away from Taurus is discovered. It seems ideal for human settlement. Many colonists go there. The sun of this system is called "Sonra“ and the planet dubbed Sonra-4, commonly referred to as "Four“.

Still, there are some voices that want to return to counting in Earth Years and have Earth history taught at school.

2215 45

Nathan R. Gunne dies of old age (93 years)

Not many people complain about the purged memory of Earth anymore; only disciples of history still know the details.

2220 50

Boron colonize one of their nearby moons.

Paranids develop space travel

2241 71

To honor the memory of R. Gunne, the Planet "Four" (Sonra-4) is renamed Argon.

2270 100

Emperor Thuruk is (still) Patriarch of the Split

Split evelop crude rockets and colonize moons

2272 102

The government of the exiled humans is relocated from Taurus to Argon (Sonra-4)

The Planet is thus known as Argon Prime.

2300 130

Paranids meet Argons.

2330 160

Reports begin to emerge of unidentified spaceships appearing on the outer edges of the Argon Federation. These reports increased until the year 210 when these unidentified ships first began attacking and destroying Argon ships. It is supposed, that these ships are Terraformers, that survived and reproduced somewhere. In the common language, these (still rare) attackers are now being called "Xenon“ (which is Greek for „alien“); it is not known who brought up this name, but it keeps stuck quickly.

2368 198

Martinus Sandas, an Argon history student, wants to revive the memory of Earth and have earth history and time counting back in place. Most people regard him as a lunatic.

2370 200

Split meet Paranids

Split meet Xenon

2372 202 Goto Goner: Origin

History student Martinus Sandas forms the "Truth about Earth“ Foundation; a group of no more than 3 people. Nobody really listens to them.

2376 206

Xenon Attacks are not so rare anymore. Somewhere, it is supposed, the Xenons are preparing for war.

A great-granddaughter of Nathan R. Gunne, by the name of Nyana Gunne, finds logs of her ancestor; in which he pleads to destroy the Earth gate, as not to give away human technology to the TF/Xenon, that could betray the secret of the jump gates and endanger earth.

Martinus Sandas and Nyana Gunne meet, because they find, that both their goals are compatible.

2377 207

Nyana Gunne and Martinus Sandas are able to buy an old ship (former Earthfleet, almost 250 years old) and go searching for the old Earth gate II. They are a crew of six: Martinus Sandas, Nyana Gunne, Randol Niddong, Jidlak Andreju, Sonja Khadir, Jawn Mantell.

To honour Nyanas Great-Grandfather Nathan R. Gunne, the old ship is dubbed AP Gunner, and the six crew members, friends all of them, like to call themselves the "Gunners“ with proud.

2378 208

Nyana Gunne and Martinus Sandas become lovers

2381 211

Xenon attacks are getting more and more agressive and destructive.

Argon is preparing for war.

The AP Gunner finds the old Earth Gate and destroys it’s electronics thoroughly, but leaving the hull untouched. They put an inscription on a lid inside the gate’s machinery, explaining who and when and for what reason the gate had been destroyed.

With pictures of the Earth gate, Martinus, Nyana and the rest of the Gunners are able to convince quite some people in the years between 211-214. The Gunners‘ „Truth about Earth“ foundation now has over 100 members, with numbers still increasing.

A file is being created by the Gunners to collect all known facts about earth; it is called "The Book Of Truth“

2384 214

An Argon ship survived a Xenon attack and the survivors reported the first sightings of their attackers, who are now positively identified as Terraformers – but somehow modified, mutated, and with more different shapes than had ever been constructed. They are very "Xenon“ (alien).

2385 215 Goto Antigone Station

Between 214 and 225 the skirmishes escalated, cumulating in the Xenon attacking and destroying „The Antigone“, a major Argon space station killing thousands. In retaliation for this attack the Argon had no choice but to declare war on the Xenon. This war became known as the Xenon Conflict.

Nyana Gunne is believed to be aboard the Antigone, while Martinus Sandas is on Argon Prime.

2387 217 Goto AP Gunner

The ship AP Gunner with their crew gets lost and was never again seen.

The Xenon Conflict is getting worse over the years; very slowly, though.

2390 220

Boron develop weapons of mass destruction. "Helpers“ leave the planet and never return.

2395 225

By the year 225 the Kingdom of Boron stretched far beyond their own solar system with colonies established on many deep space planets.

2400 230 Goto The Xenon Conflict

The Argon Federation looked to their allies the Paranid for help but, after much debate and discussion, in 230 the Emperor of the Paranid finally refused to join the war, and relationships between the two races deteriorated.

Between the years 230 and 255 the Xenon increased their attacks and the Argon Federation lost battle after battle. Many space stations and colonies were lost and slowly the Xenon took over more territory.

2425 255

The tide turned around the year 255 when the Argon space fleet enjoyed a number of spectacular and daring victories. Slowly, bit by bit they forced the Xenon back to their frontiers, regaining their lost territories.

2460 290

By 290 the Argon’s had succeeded in forcing the Xenon Fleet from all Argon Federation Territories and the attackers finally retreated back to wherever they had come from in deep space.

2469 299

By the year 299 the Split had chased The Boron back to their home planet and their Kingdom lay in ruins. What the Split hadn’t destroyed they had taken over. They amassed a large force and were just about to launch a major attack on Planet Boron when they were suddenly attacked by a ships from a race they had never encountered before - The Argon.

2470 300

In 300 an Argon Deep Space Fleet was dispatched in an attempt to discover the Xenon home territories.

2493 323

The Boron had secretly been in contact with The Argon since 323, and for the next few years the two races had been forging the foundations of an alliance that would establish trade links that were the beginnings of the “Foundation Guild.”

A community of Argon deep space mining and exploration ships are attacked by the Split. They are devastated by this attack but continue to fight back during the following years. There are families on these ships. Women and children are all killed during these exchanges.

2494 324

Whilst awaiting a decision from the home planet the Argon fleet was attacked by a smaller fleet of Split warships, among them were some space ships of the Paranid race. The decision was made immediately, and once again the Argon were involved in a major war. This one came to be known as the Boron Campaign.

This alliance with the Argon came just in time for the Borons, as by 324, the attacking Split had forced them back almost to their home planet.

2496 326

The Argon dispatched a powerful fleet to the Borons aid, and after a huge battle in 326 the alliance was successful when together they managed to defeat a huge attacking fleet of Paranid and Split in a battle fought in the skies over the Borons home planet.

2520 350

Eventually Split and their allies the Paranid were forced to concede and the war formally ended in 350. As a result of this peace treaty the Argon and the Boron formed a permanent alliance called the “Foundation Guild”. This guild is not only establishes permanent trading links, but controlled and policed them. The Argon Mark was chosen as its currency.

The entry into the Boron Conflict by the Argon in 350, mainly due to the involvement of the Paranid, saved the Boron race from extermination. The combined Argon and Boron Fleet destroyed the attackers and pushed the enemy alliance back.

2522 352

The Split and the Paranid then fell out among themselves and continued to battle each other until they too reached an agreement.

2570 400

Applying advanced technology supplied by The Argon, Boron scientists soon developed highly sophisticated weaponry, and fighting side by side, the two allies forced The Split and The Paranid back into space, regaining many territories belonging to the Kingdom of Boron. This concerted effort resulted in a declaration of peace in 400

Split dismantle the position of "Emperor“.

2582 412

The Argon federation and the Kingdom of Boron establish the Foundation Guild.

2583 413

Paranid and Split found the "Profit Guild“ to contract the Foundation Guild.

2700 530

Teladi colonies re-discover space travel.

2720 550

In 550 a "new“ race, the Teladi, entered the space lanes and, despite deputation’s being made from the Foundation Guild, began trading with the Profit Guild, Great suspicions is put on this action by both the Argon and the Boron, but the main reason why the Teladi refused to join the foundation Guild was that it refused to enter into the Argon Mark currency, instead insisting on using its own native Teladi Buckzoid currency.

2733 563

Teladi become menber of the Profit Guild.

2759 589

In 589 a great step forward is made when members of both the Foundation Guild and the Profit Guild agree upon a common currency called Credits. From this date onwards the X Universe operated on the Credit system of currency.

This event is known as The great Currency Reform and to date has been the only occasion where the five races of the X Universe have ever come to an agreement over anything.

2770 600

The Split weapon moratorium declares that energy weapons don’t fall under the jurisdiction of the laws to control war weaponry. The Community of Planets agrees to keep the peace.

2773 603

Large accident on the pleasure station "Ferryman“ destroys the station killing seven thousand Argon’s. The resultant pollution marks the area off limits for 30 years. Large scale nuclear power plants are banned in all known space and only small scale devices are used as backup or to power engines in ships. Majority of energy used in space comes from reusable energy cells which store captured solar energy. Big business develops around these energy plants. All races sign the "Energy Accord“. Space becomes safer.

2784 614

First interplanetary conference for Security and Collaboration in Space.

2793 623

Siobhan Norman II is born; she, as all the females in her family line, bears the slow-aging genes.

2870 680

The Paranid develop the "Slave“ chip. This is a technological breakthrough which allows beings who carry it to operate computer systems by thought alone. The chip is medically inserted into the brain stem and becomes a sixth sense. It allows data to be fed to the recipient directly and is a two way device.

2873 683

The Teladi, being the most influential financial Power in the Federation of Planets, manage to push through usage of their time system based on Sezuras and Jazuras.

2905 735

TF/Xenon Jumpship enters Solar System.

(Earth) John Friedman and Ayse McCallum are killed in an attempt to salvage the supposedly defective jumpship.

Earth government agrees on researching into a jumpdrive based on the remains of the Terraformer/Xenon jumpship.

After many attempts through negotiation fail to have the high/low price thresholds and trade levies lowered, Moo-Kye (Argon female and ruthless pirate) forms the Yaki (from Argon word Yakuza – mafia – Yaki means "Many Mafia“) and they begin to build an empire in deep space between the Split and Teladi sectors. This is done in secret.

2906 736

The Paranid develop the "Super Slave“ chip in secret. After much misuse of the original "Slave“ chip for pleasure and interrogation and many reports of coma being induced, the Paranid ironically ban it’s use but not its manufacturer.

"Super Slave“ has longer use, greater range, greater capability.

At the very moment the "Super Slave“ station goes online, it is attacked by an unknown fleet of pirates. The initial batch of 100 Super Slaves are stolen and the station, workers and all plans for the new chips are destroyed.

2912 742 Goto The Dream Of Reaching The Stars

Capt. Kyle Willam Brennan maroons in the X-Universe during the first manned testing of the jumpship prototype.

Major Elena Kho is sent to the X-Universe to rescue Cpt. Brennan.

The Xenon are defeated in a great Xenon war.

2912

Continued 742

Continued Goto Ion Battlers Story

The Old Ones send a message through their executive, the Sohnen, to keep the Community of Planets from completely destroying the Xenon. There has never been any report of a direct contact to the Old Ones or the Sohnen before.

Nopileos ship Nyanas Luck crashes on the far side of the Split planet Nif-Nakh, leaving him alone in the dreadful jungle hell.

The jumpgate routes are re-arranged.

2913 743

Chin deposed from power. Rhonkar becomes Patriarch of all Split.

2924 754 Goto Dragon Incident

The split shipyard in Family Pride is destroyed in the Dragon Incident. Only to be later rebuilt. The Dragon is later redesigned.

2934 764 Goto The Presidents End Massacre

Julian Gardna is hired by Terracorp

The Khaak start their attacks in the X-Universe.

The Argon sector Presidents End is totally destroyed in the first major Khaak attack.

The long lost ship, AP Gunner, is found in Nyana’s Hideout. Clues to the disappearance of Kyle Brennan are found in its log.

2934

Continued 764

Continued Goto The Battle Of Omicron Lyrae

Khaak Attacks Increase

Khaak Infiltration station found in Ore Belt

The Battle Of Omicron Lyrae

2938 768 Goto The Terran Conflict

The Terran Conflict

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Yes looks like they even called them the Old Ones. Those Sohnen that it mentions from the ancient races are in X3. You see one of their ships briefly a few times.

They are featured in the XTM mod more heavily as they are the guys with the dyson sphere.

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“on 17th December 2947, all the jump gates across the community of planets failed as one”

was formed. As there no time line in the book this might be referring to some thing else

Or is it something which happens after the events in X3TC. ❓

Yes it looks like that is something that happens later on. Maybe theres another game on the horrizon then, or maybe even the TC XTM mod will have that bit of history in it...


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