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[Jameson]

I would suggest attempting to disable your accelerometer and seeing if that improves things any.On an unrelated note, I just compiled tomm's current git repo and it segfaulted like crazy. What are the system requirements for this? I'm gonna try s20dan's next to see if it makes a difference. If you guys need any info from me, I'll try to give you what I can, but I'm not that savvy when it comes to linux.Edit: s20dan's was the same result. Novel. I'm gonna try it in windows.

[robn]

I kinda never thought about disabling it because I never really understood what it was or why it was there and didn't want to break anything. I found the three kernel modules that appear to control it and removed it. Hopefully it hasn't broken something else. I guess I'll find out. Still, ability to unbind the joystick would be nice.I just built from source and seem to get segfaults when there's a lot happening, like spawning many ships. I didn't know if this was normal or not, being my first run through.

[Jameson]

So far you're having more luck than I am, seeing as you've got it running.Edit: When I actually use a precompiled binary, it does nothing but opens and closes, leaving behind a weird pioneer9.0 executable, which also seems to do nothing. I dunno.

[s2odan]

How about the actual released version, does that play ok?At this stage there really isn't a lot thats in the source and not in the latest 8.11 version, unless your wanting to check out jaj22's AI additions.

[Jameson]

I downloaded 8, extracted everything, and tried it. The window opened, my pointer changed from white to black, thenthe window closed. Same results with 8.1 and 8.11.For 8.1 and 8.11, all that I need to do is extract the files to the 8 folder and overwrite when prompted, or am I doing that wrong? When I attempted to compile the source manually on ubuntu, I got segmentation faults on both the game itself and the model viewer. When I did it in vc2008 on windows 7, it gave me the error I attached to my previous post.Could it also be that I don't meet the minimum requirements? This laptop isn't what I'd call 'robust' as it's only an Amd Sempron 3600+ (2.0ghz) with 1.5gb ram and an ATI Radeon Xpress 1150 (integrated) video card. I don't recall seeing any specific system requirements, but this thing is kind of sluggish running FFED3D at times, too.Edit: I was gonna give it another go, just in case, but the links in the Alpha 8 thread seem to be broken now. I'll try compiling your latest source from github again.

[s2odan]

I take it you have the Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 re-distributable package installed on the windows pc?http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=A5C84275-3B97-4AB7-A40D-3802B2AF5FC2&displaylang=enIf you can run FFED3D I would think you can run Pioneer. Everything I have tested it on has worked rather well.As for the links, the Pioneer site seems to be down at the moment.

[Jameson]

I get an application error still. The forum won't let me attach my build log, so it's at of that stuff is all technobabble to me, but I think the actual output starts at line 853

[s2odan]

Quote:
0 error(s),
Yeah it seems to build fine. Not sure whats going on with you not being able to run it. Don't suppose theres anything interesting being mentioned in stdout.txt or stderr.txt is there?

[Jameson]

It gives me pioneer-msvc-9.0_debug.exe but when I run it, it gives me the error attached to my post at the top of the page. If I debug it from VC2008, then all I get is what you can see in the attached image.Just to be sure, I'm supposed to be compiling pioneer-msvc-9.0.vcproj, correct?

[s2odan]

Sorry I didn't read your post correctly.Anything being mentioned in stdout.txt and stderr.txt when you get that error?

[Jameson]

stderr.txt reads:
Code:
GL_ARB_point_sprite: No
stdout is blank.

[s2odan]

I think it means graphics not good enough.... One other thing I can think of for you to try if you haven't already tried it is to go to 'Username/AppData/Local/Pioneer/config.ini'And try turning shaders off in the config.

[Jameson]

I have the pioneer/ folder, but no files inside. I think it didn't even get to that point.Once I have my desktop set up (lacking a monitor at the moment), I'll give it a shot on there, since it outperforms this laptop in nearly every respect. Thanks for the help, though. At least I know I was doing it right up until this point.Edit: Just double checked, it's definitely my system. It works fine on my brother's Core2Duo/Radeon 3800 HD. Very pretty.

[Taquito]

Can somebody please pinpoint where's the file for the font values? I've been playing with different fonts for the game and I finally found one that looks awesome (space age) but I need to make it smaller. Help me please!

[hento]

Don't know if anybody noticed in alpha 8 but the game exits when you try to load a savegame after you have died.Also an idea for smuggler types - would it be possible to add a 1 or 2 t compartment (or something similar) in the ship which would overlooked by the authorities

[robn]

Taquito wrote:
Can somebody please pinpoint where's the file for the font values? I've been playing with different fonts for the game and I finally found one that looks awesome (space age) but I need to make it smaller. Help me please!
src/glfreetype.cpp. The constructor function FontFace::FontFace() is where the geometry is set up. The simplest place to start to effect size changes would be to modify the values passed to FT_Set_Char_Size(). The FreeType docs explain what the parameters are.

[Taquito]

robn wrote:


Taquito wrote:
Can somebody please pinpoint where's the file for the font values? I've been playing with different fonts for the game and I finally found one that looks awesome (space age) but I need to make it smaller. Help me please!
src/glfreetype.cpp. The constructor function FontFace::FontFace() is where the geometry is set up. The simplest place to start to effect size changes would be to modify the values passed to FT_Set_Char_Size(). The FreeType docs explain what the parameters are.
Thanks rbn ^^. Right now I'm using Monkirta pursuit font and it does fit quite well in the game and looks better. Can I have another question rbn? I found a nice music ogg file that I would like to implement in the game. Do you know where should I place the file or which file should I replace in order to make it work? Thank you.

[Bugbear]

A couple of suggestions / minor gripes...When visiting the bulletin board looking for package delivery missions, it can get a bit tiresome clicking on the ad, then clicking on the "request due date" button to find out when the delivery is due. At the risk of hitting a nerve with regards to changing original Frontier behaviour, would it be desirable to make the vetting of package delivery requests a little less of a grind?Another minor 'nice to have' - a sort button on the Missions page. When you've done a couple of dozen missions, you'll find yourself constantly scrolling down to the bottom of the list to see the active missions. It would be nice to sort this page by due date, active, basically any of the fields on the page.Cheers

[memnoch]

I think what you are getting at, with regards to the BBS, is the same thing going on in MMOs and their mission descriptions.There is usually several paragraphs of text explaining the quest/mission and other things and 99% of people click right through ignoring the lot.However there are those who enjoy the lore and backstory.If you reduce the BBS to a list of "Click here for great rewards!" items we may be in danger of losing part of the "soul" of the game. Certainly later missions for the military should not be an open advert to bomb some installation somewhere for 2000 credits.Perhaps it would be okay to simplify the more innocent ones. I just feel it may be a slippery slope to appease the lazy, ADD crowd!

[Potsmoke66]

that would look like this
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-- Danger should be from 0 to 1. zero means nothing bad happens. greater than-- zero means spawn an enemy ship of that 'power' to kill youlocal delivery_flavours = {{adtext = "GOING TO the %1 system? Money paid for delivery of a small package.",introtext = "Hi, I'm %1. I'll pay you %2 if you will deliver a small package until %7 to %3 in the %4 (%5, %6) system.",whysomuchdoshtext = "When a friend visited me she left behind some clothes and antique paper books. I'd like to have them returned to her.",successmsg = "Thank you for the delivery. You have been paid in full.",failuremsg = "Jesus wept, you took forever over that delivery. I'm not willing to pay you.",danger = 0,time = 3,money = .5,}, {adtext = "WANTED. Delivery of a package to the %1 system.",introtext = "Hello. I'm %1. I'm willing to pay %2 for a ship to carry a package until %7 to %3 in the %4 (%5, %6) system.",whysomuchdoshtext = "It is nothing special.",successmsg = "The package has been received and you have been paid in full.",failuremsg = "I'm frustrated by the late delivery of my package, and I refuse to pay you.",danger = 0,time = 1,money = 1,}, {adtext = "URGENT. Fast ship needed to deliver a package to the %1 system.",introtext = "Hello. I'm %1. I'm willing to pay %2 for a ship to carry a package until %7 to %3 in the %4 (%5, %6) system.",whysomuchdoshtext = "It is a research proposal and must be delivered by the deadline or we may not get funding.",successmsg = "You have been paid in full for the delivery. Thank you.",failuremsg = "I was quite clear about the deadline and am very disappointed by the late delivery. You will not be paid.",danger = 0,time = .75,money = 1.1,}, {adtext = "DELIVERY. Documents to the %1 system. %2 to an experienced pilot.",introtext = "Hello. I'm %1. I'm willing to pay %2 for a ship to carry a package until %7 to %3 in the %4 (%5, %6) system.",whysomuchdoshtext = "Some extremely sensitive documents have fallen into my hands, and I have reason to believe that the leak has been traced to me.",successmsg = "Your timely and discrete service is much appreciated. You have been paid in full.",failuremsg = "Useless! I will never depend on you again! Needless to say, you will not be paid for this.",danger = .5,time = 0.75,money = 2.5,}}--[[for i = 0,10 dolocal sys = StarSystem:new(i,2,0)print('Looking near ' .. sys:GetSectorX() .. '/' .. sys:GetSectorY() .. '/' .. sys:GetSystemNum())print(sys:GetSystemName())print(sys:GetSystemShortDescription())local sport = sys:GetRandomStarportNearButNotIn()if sport thenprint(sport:GetBodyName() .. ' in the ' .. sport:GetSystemName() .. ' system')elseprint("No suitable nearby space station found.")endend--]]Module:new {__name = 'DeliverPackage',Init = function(self)self:EventListen("onCreateBB")self:EventListen("onUpdateBB")self:EventListen("onEnterSystem")self:EventListen("onPlayerDock")self.ads = {}self.missions = {}end,GetPlayerMissions = function(self)return self.missionsend,_TryAddAdvert = function(self, station)local gender = Pi.rand:Int(0,1) == 1local flavour = Pi.rand:Int(1, #delivery_flavours)ad = {flavour = flavour,personGender = gender,client = Pi.rand:PersonName(gender),reward = Pi.rand:Real(200, 1000) * delivery_flavours[flavour].money,due = Pi.GetGameTime() + Pi.rand:Real(0, delivery_flavours[flavour].time * 60*60*24*31),bb = station,dest = Pi.GetCurrentSystem():GetRandomStarportNearButNotIn(),id = #self.ads+1}-- if we found a destinationif ad.dest ~= nil thentable.insert(self.ads, ad)local addescription = _(delivery_flavours[ad.flavour].adtext, {ad.dest:GetSystemName(),format_money(ad.reward) } )station:SpaceStationAddAdvert(self.__name, #self.ads, addescription)endend,onCreateBB = function(self, args)local station = args[1]for i = 1,10 do --Pi.rand:Int(0, 5) doselfGDN_TryAddAdvert(station)endend,onEnterSystem = function(self)for k,mission in pairs(self.missions) doif mission.status == 'active' and mission.dest:GetSystem() == Pi:GetCurrentSystem() thenlocal danger = delivery_flavours[mission.flavour].dangerif danger > 0 then--ship, e = Pi.SpawnShip(Pi.GetGameTime()+60, "Ladybird Starfighter")ship, e = Pi.SpawnRandomShip(Pi.GetGameTime(), danger, 20, 100)if e == nil thenship:ShipAIDoKill(Pi.GetPlayer());Pi.ImportantMessage(ship:GetLabel(), _("You're going to regret dealing with %1!", {mission.client}))endendendendend,onPlayerDock = function(self)local station = Pi.GetPlayer():GetDockedWith():GetSBody()print('player docked with ' .. station:GetBodyName())for k,mission in pairs(self.missions) doif mission.status == 'active' thenif mission.dest == station thenif Pi.GetGameTime() > mission.due thenPi.ImportantMessage(mission.client, delivery_flavours[mission.flavour].failuremsg)mission.status = 'failed'elsePi.ImportantMessage(mission.client, delivery_flavours[mission.flavour].successmsg)Pi.GetPlayer():AddMoney(mission.reward)mission.status = 'completed'endelseif Pi.GetGameTime() > mission.due thenmission.status = 'failed'endendendend,onUpdateBB = function(self, args)local station = args[1]for k,ad in pairs(self.ads) doif (ad.bb == station) and (ad.due < Pi.GetGameTime() + 60*60*24*1) thenself.ads[k] = nilad.bb:SpaceStationRemoveAdvert(self.__name, ad.id)endendif Pi.rand:Int(0,12*60*60) < 60*60 then -- roughly once every twelve hoursselfGDN_TryAddAdvert(station)endend,onChatBB = function(self, dialog, optionClicked)local ad = self.ads[dialog]dialog:Clear()if optionClicked == -1 thendialog:Close()returnelseif optionClicked == 0 thendialog:SetMessage(_(delivery_flavours[ad.flavour].introtext, {ad.client, format_money(ad.reward), ad.dest:GetBodyName(), ad.dest:GetSystemName(), ad.dest:GetSectorX(), ad.dest:GetSectorY(), Date.Format(ad.due) }))elseif optionClicked == 1 thendialog:SetMessage(delivery_flavours[ad.flavour].whysomuchdoshtext)--[[elseif optionClicked == 2 thendialog:SetMessage(_('It must be delivered by %1', { Date.Format(ad.due) }))--]]elseif optionClicked == 3 thendialog:RemoveAdvertOnClose()self.ads[ad.id] = nilad.description = _("Deliver a package to %1 in the %2 system (%3, %4).",{ ad.dest:GetBodyName(), ad.dest:GetSystemName(), ad.dest:GetSectorX(), ad.dest:GetSectorY() })ad.status = "active"table.insert(self.missions, ad)dialog:SetMessage("Excellent.")dialog:AddOption("Hang up.", -1)returnenddialog:AddOption("Why so much money?", 1);dialog:AddOption("Could you repeat the original request?", 0);--dialog:AddOption("How soon must it be delivered?", 2);dialog:AddOption("Ok, agreed.", 3);dialog:AddOption("Hang up.", -1);end,}
this is how i use it
Code:
-- Danger should be from 0 to 1. zero means nothing bad happens. greater than-- zero means spawn an enemy ship of that 'power' to kill youlocal delivery_flavours = {{adtext = "GOING TO the %1 system? Money paid for delivery of a small package.",introtext = "Hi, I'm %1. I'll pay you %2 if you will deliver a small package until %5 to %3 in the %4 system.",howtogettheretext_0 = "O.K., i will take a look, wait...",howtogettheretext_1 = "Oh, excuse me Sir, i forgot, %1 in the %2 system has %3, %4 as coordinates. live long and prosperous, Sir",whysomuchdoshtext = "When a friend visited me she left behind some clothes and antique paper books. I'd like to have them returned to her.",successmsg = "Thank you for the delivery. You have been paid in full.",failuremsg = "Jesus wept, you took forever over that delivery. I'm not willing to pay you.",danger = 0,time = 3,money = .5,}, {adtext = "WANTED. Delivery of a package to the %1 system.",introtext = "Hello. I'm %1. I'm willing to pay %2 for a ship to carry a package until %5 to %3 in the %4 system.",whysomuchdoshtext = "It is nothing special.",howtogettheretext_0 = "I thought in your Spaceship?.",howtogettheretext_1 = "Of course i can tell you, %1 in the %2 system has %3, %4 as coordinates, have a nice trip.",successmsg = "The package has been received and you have been paid in full.",failuremsg = "I'm frustrated by the late delivery of my package, and I refuse to pay you.",danger = 0,time = 1,money = 1,}, {adtext = "URGENT. Fast ship needed to deliver a package to the %1 system.",introtext = "Hello. I'm %1. I'm willing to pay %2 for a ship to carry a package until %5 to %3 in the %4 system.",whysomuchdoshtext = "It is a research proposal and must be delivered by the deadline or we may not get funding.",howtogettheretext_0 = "What do i know? are YOU the Pilot or am I?",howtogettheretext_1 = "%1 in the %2 System, is located %3, %4. I thought you know that?",successmsg = "You have been paid in full for the delivery. Thank you.",failuremsg = "I was quite clear about the deadline and am very disappointed by the late delivery. You will not be paid.",danger = .5,time = .75,money = 1.5,}, {adtext = "DELIVERY. Documents to the %1 system. %2 to an experienced pilot.",introtext = "Hello. I'm %1. I'm willing to pay %2 for a ship to carry a package to until %5 %3 in the %4 system.",whysomuchdoshtext = "Some extremely sensitive documents have fallen into my hands, and I have reason to believe that the leak has been traced to me.",howtogettheretext_0 = "-",howtogettheretext_1 = "Are you shure that you are the right Pilot for this Delivery? %2 is located %3, %4.",successmsg = "Your timely and discrete service is much appreciated. You have been paid in full.",failuremsg = "Useless! I will never depend on you again! Needless to say, you will not be paid for this.",danger = 1,time = 1,money = 2.5,}}--[[for i = 0,10 dolocal sys = StarSystem:new(i,2,0)print('Looking near ' .. sys:GetSectorX() .. '/' .. sys:GetSectorY() .. '/' .. sys:GetSystemNum())print(sys:GetSystemName())print(sys:GetSystemShortDescription())local sport = sys:GetRandomStarportNearButNotIn()if sport thenprint(sport:GetBodyName() .. ' in the ' .. sport:GetSystemName() .. ' system')elseprint("No suitable nearby space station found.")endend--]]Module:new {__name = 'DeliverPackage',Init = function(self)self:EventListen("onCreateBB")self:EventListen("onUpdateBB")self:EventListen("onEnterSystem")self:EventListen("onPlayerDock")self.ads = {}self.missions = {}end,GetPlayerMissions = function(self)return self.missionsend,_TryAddAdvert = function(self, station)local gender = Pi.rand:Int(0,1) == 1local flavour = Pi.rand:Int(1, #delivery_flavours)ad = {flavour = flavour,personGender = gender,client = Pi.rand:PersonName(gender),reward = Pi.rand:Real(200, 1000) * delivery_flavours[flavour].money,due = Pi.GetGameTime() + Pi.rand:Real(0, delivery_flavours[flavour].time * 60*60*24*31),bb = station,dest = Pi.GetCurrentSystem():GetRandomStarportNearButNotIn(),id = #self.ads+1}-- if we found a destinationif ad.dest ~= nil thentable.insert(self.ads, ad)local addescription = _(delivery_flavours[ad.flavour].adtext, {ad.dest:GetSystemName(),format_money(ad.reward) } )station:SpaceStationAddAdvert(self.__name, #self.ads, addescription)endend,onCreateBB = function(self, args)local station = args[1]for i = 1,10 do --Pi.rand:Int(0, 5) doselfGDN_TryAddAdvert(station)endend,onEnterSystem = function(self)for k,mission in pairs(self.missions) doif mission.status == 'active' and mission.dest:GetSystem() == Pi:GetCurrentSystem() thenlocal danger = delivery_flavours[mission.flavour].dangerif danger > 0 then--ship, e = Pi.SpawnShip(Pi.GetGameTime()+60, "Ladybird Starfighter")ship, e = Pi.SpawnRandomShip(Pi.GetGameTime(), danger, 20, 100)if e == nil thenship:ShipAIDoKill(Pi.GetPlayer());Pi.ImportantMessage(ship:GetLabel(), _("You're going to regret dealing with %1!", {mission.client}))endendendendend,onPlayerDock = function(self)local station = Pi.GetPlayer():GetDockedWith():GetSBody()print('player docked with ' .. station:GetBodyName())for k,mission in pairs(self.missions) doif mission.status == 'active' thenif mission.dest == station thenif Pi.GetGameTime() > mission.due thenPi.ImportantMessage(mission.client, delivery_flavours[mission.flavour].failuremsg)mission.status = 'failed' -- erase the missionself.missions[k] = nilelsePi.ImportantMessage(mission.client, delivery_flavours[mission.flavour].successmsg)Pi.GetPlayer():AddMoney(mission.reward)mission.status = 'completed'-- erase the missionself.missions[k] = nilendelseif Pi.GetGameTime() > mission.due thenmission.status = 'failed'-- erase the missionself.missions[k] = nilendendendend,onUpdateBB = function(self, args) local station = args[1]for k,ad in pairs(self.ads) doif (ad.bb == station) and (ad.due < Pi.GetGameTime() + 60*60*24*1) thenself.ads[k] = nilad.bb:SpaceStationRemoveAdvert(self.__name, ad.id)end --self.missions[k] = nilendif Pi.rand:Int(0,12*60*60) < 60*60 then -- roughly once every twelve hoursselfGDN_TryAddAdvert(station)endend,onChatBB = function(self, dialog, optionClicked)local ad = self.ads[dialog] dialog:Clear()if optionClicked == -1 thendialog:Close()returnelseif optionClicked == 0 thendialog:SetMessage(_(delivery_flavours[ad.flavour].introtext, {ad.client, format_money(ad.reward), ad.dest:GetBodyName(), ad.dest:GetSystemName(), Date.Format(ad.due) }))elseif optionClicked == 1 thendialog:SetMessage(delivery_flavours[ad.flavour].whysomuchdoshtext)--[[elseif optionClicked == 2 thendialog:SetMessage(_('It must be delivered by %1', { Date.Format(ad.due) }))--]]elseif optionClicked == 3 then local answ_1 = math.fmod((ad.dest:GetSystemLawlessness()),1) if answ_1 > .15 then -- old value = .125 dialog:SetMessage(delivery_flavours[ad.flavour].howtogettheretext_0)else dialog:SetMessage(_(delivery_flavours[ad.flavour].howtogettheretext_1, {ad.dest:GetBodyName(), ad.dest:GetSystemName(), ad.dest:GetSectorX(), ad.dest:GetSectorY() }))endelseif optionClicked == 4 thendialog:RemoveAdvertOnClose() self.ads[ad.id] = nil local answ_1 = math.fmod((ad.dest:GetSystemLawlessness()),1) if answ_1 > .15 then ad.description = (_("Deliver a package to %1 in the %2 system.",{ ad.dest:GetBodyName(), ad.dest:GetSystemName() })) else ad.description = (_("Deliver a package to %1 in the %2 system (%3, %4).",{ ad.dest:GetBodyName(), ad.dest:GetSystemName(), ad.dest:GetSectorX(), ad.dest:GetSectorY() }))endad.status = "active"table.insert(self.missions, ad)dialog:SetMessage("Excellent.")dialog:AddOption("Hang up.", -1)returnenddialog:AddOption("Why so much money?", 1);dialog:AddOption("Could you repeat the original request?", 0);--dialog:AddOption("How soon must it be delivered?", 2);dialog:AddOption("How do i get there?", 3);dialog:AddOption("Ok, agreed.", 4);dialog:AddOption("Hang up.", -1);end,}
it adds a "how do i get there" while not all will tell you the coordinates (it depends on target system lawlessness, as soon as we have a character value this could be changed).removes the "useless" - howsoon.deletes all finished missions from the roster (you could optionally only erase succeeded).increases danger somewhat.