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RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:03 pm
by Pinback
Are you referring to the video posted by D1, if so it's not an official video it's just some YouTuber trying to fill the information void but Hello Games should have had the official web site http://www.no-mans-sky.com/[/url] updated with at least a basic FAO on it at the same time they started taking pre orders for the game. Even the Steam forums don't seem to have had any input from them although their is a pinned thread with a number of links to different sites http://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/412448792345901601/[/url] with the Reddit one https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/wiki/faq[/url] being the best source.

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:49 pm
by ExpandingMan
Are you referring to the video posted by D1Yes, but (and correct me if I'm wrong) it's not like the videos of all the things that he's talking about exist some place else. Those kinds of videos just don't exist, all of the videos I have seen have been of someone lethargically strolling through various environments, and occasionally shooting a rock with a gun. Sure, those are nice, but they spend so much time talking about features that we never see anywhere. Granted, there are other games that take this type of (idiotic) approach at advertising, but it isn't the norm. Take Ubisoft, for instance. There are a lot of reasons to hate Ubisoft, but you can't deny that they SHOW the features they advertise before their games are released. Lots of normal game play videos show at least a few hundred milliseconds of many of the features they advertise. With No Man's Sky, they have released probably about a couple of hours of video total, but all of it shows the same thing, and almost none of it shows any of what they are always saying you will spend the majority of your time actually doing. I suppose there is a good chance that this is due to some arcane marketing bullshit on Sony's part, but, regardless, I find it unsettling.

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:31 pm
by sscadmin
With No Man's Sky, they have released probably about a couple of hours of video total, but all of it shows the same thing, and almost none of it shows any of what they are always saying you will spend the majority of your time actually doing.They are trying to build hype and I cannot blame them this is Hello Games first major game. I believe they are fully aware that if they mislead us the steam rating will reflect this very quickly and sales will pay the price. Personally i think they would have delayed the release if they didn't think it was ready. Going back to your point we have been seeing similar videos for 2yrs now and just shows they have had this game in a running state for a while and probably have been just adding all these other features these past two years. I almost never buy a game when it comes out... heh I just recently bought X Rebirth after it went through years of patching :) If Hello Games delivers this game should be popular with most people for a while, but the exploration has to be fun and challenging to keep people doing it.

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:08 am
by Pinback
Yes, but (and correct me if I'm wrong) it's not like the videos of all the things that he's talking about exist some place else. Those kinds of videos just don't exist, all of the videos I have seen have been of someone lethargically strolling through various environments, and occasionally shooting a rock with a gun. Aye they do tend to be similar but as D1 said it may just be down to the current build they had at the time when they made the video but with only about three months till the release of the game it's up to Hello Games to start putting out more details. Just hope the next video not some unrealistic CGI trailer which shows nothing of the game itself.

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:42 am
by natansharp
I think it's a very good thing that No man's sky is released also for ps4...if space sims are made also for console this means (for me) that we are witnessing not only a reborn of this kind of games but a real affirmation on the market more than the golden age of the 90's.

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:17 pm
by ExpandingMan
I think it's a very good thing that No man's sky is released also for ps4...if space sims are made also for console this means (for me) that we are witnessing not only a reborn of this kind of games but a real affirmation on the market more than the golden age of the 90's.While it would be nice to finally see some space-sims have major commercial success, there are some significant down-sides to them being developed for consoles. For one, while I do think that most space-sim control schemes can use some stream-lining, the control surfaces on consoles are extremely primitive (or, more importantly, less flexible), and in most cases would probably require cutting out a lot of features to make work. Of course this will affect PC as well, because developers want to make a game that is the same on all platforms. (Just look at the initial release of X Rebirth, which was originally intended to also release on XBone.) Then there is of course the usual problems that console are SO far behind PC's in terms of computing power that developing for them encourages developers not to utilize the full potential of PC's and we often wind up with games which are badly optimized for PC. I think buying a PS4 makes perfect sense if you average less than about 10 hours a week playing games (at that point it's probably just not worth it to you to buy a more expensive PC regardless of the benefits), but I will never understand why games on which players are expected to play hundreds of hours are successful on consoles at all. Spending 20 hours a week on something is a major time commitment, that's half of a full-time job; if you are going to spend $400 to $600 on a console, you might as well wait a bit longer and spend an extra $100 to $200 on a PC that will give you far greater performance, and which you have practically unlimited ability to modify, including the choice of just about any control surface you can think of.

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:50 am
by nevilclavain
http://www.designntrend.com/articles/73472/20160406/no-mans-sky-programmer-sean-murray-ps4-pc-game-flop.htm[/url]

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:49 am
by XenonS
The article above is trash (I'm polite here), the only 'flop' the game could possibly generate would be that most promised features were simply not in the game, and nothing points to that. And then there is something like updates or patches like in any title. The game is scheduled to be released mid June.Personally I'm more concerned that the PC version of the game will exclusively be offered by a gaming platform like Steam or other. I would like to purchase and get a version directly from the developer - even if more expensive - and leave these game platforms away. XenonS

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:57 pm
by Pinback
 I would agree the article is nothing more than some hysterical headline grabbing bit like the Daily Mail (UK news paper) in order to get the site some attention.

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:11 pm
by Geraldine
Its also going to be available on GOG[/url] I have to admit, I am tempted!

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:58 pm
by XenonS
Its also going to be available on GOG[/url] I have to admit, I am tempted!Good news, thanks for the info !Greets,XenonS

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:58 pm
by ExpandingMan
Increasingly as this thing approaches release I think more and more that it will be a victim if it's hype. People have crazy high expectations and all indications are that it will be pretty basic. I am bothered by the fact that the gameplay videos tend to not show all these interesting things that they are advertising (I believe I made a post in the past about how discovering features usually consists of watching a YouTube video giving new features as bullet points, while the same gameplay video that's played a hundred times is shown in the background, and we never seem to actually see so many of these features). Since I am a fanatical science-fiction fan, and love just about anything which is set in space, I expect that I will probably get my share of enjoyment out of it regardless, even based on the little bits I've seen. I doubt that the guy who spends his whole life playing fantasy RPG's or GTA, but plays No Man's Sky because he thinks it looks so amazing and special will see it quite that way, however.

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:23 am
by XenonS
Yes, NMS has the highest expectations I ever saw for a space game. And I'm even a little concerned that if one feature will not work as intended because of a bug or else, people will get hot, but never would they drive away from the title. But I really don't think that NMS will have the fate of X-Rebirth where almost nothing has worked at the release start. I see Sean Murray rather as a perfectionist, he would never allow a game going out with major flaws, or any flaws he's aware of. I think the reason for making only 'selective' videos is a simple and sound one: You don't want to give information away to your concurents that would allow them to copy your work (or your ideas) before your title is even released. This would have very negative consequences on your sales, and I fully agree with this strategy. XenonS

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:55 pm
by Pinback
Murry has said in the past that he does not want to board the hype train and unfortunately in the absence of very little official information, people have been reading between the lines and forming their own conclusions.

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:48 pm
by XenonS
Yes, that's good and bad at the same time. Good as a promotion but bad if you deceive all these expectations. Maybe at the release, they will also release more precise videos showing more of the game mechanics? But then a flood of Youtube's from the gamers will also do. I'm curious, let's see... XenonS

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:43 pm
by MV2000
New gameplay video from IGN (that doesn't actually look boring/samey as previous videos at last)

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:06 pm
by ExpandingMan
Yes, finally, that was a real, new gameplay video (stupid bullshit like showing the speakers when there are new things on the screen notwithstanding). It's looking like a pretty lousy shooter and space-sim, but I suppose we weren't really expecting it to excel at those things anyway. It is looking like there is a fair amount to do, so that's certainly a positive.

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:46 pm
by MV2000
(stupid bullshit like showing the speakers when there are new things on the screen notwithstanding)It's IGN what do you want to expect. It's looking like a pretty lousy shooter and space-sim Frankly NMS always has been "space survival & exploration first" and "shooter/spacesim later" since the beginning so it's understandable.

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:08 am
by XenonS
Finally we get a good amount of information about game mechanics, about what we can expect to play with. We have seen a Borderlands-like FPS action with a natural transition into space, and this on a very large scale. There seems to be a lot to do on planets, Murray didn^t say it expressly, but he showed that you are not going to be given a space fighter ship as a give-away, you will have to work for it, also for your survival against natural elements.I continue to be impressed by the Artwork, the new presented interiors, more details on the inside of the space station, a factory on the planet and finally: we get to know that yes, there will be interactive NPC's. That's not bad at all.While not hyper-realistic, the interior designs very well fit into the planet surrounding and the game idea to spread fascination. A great job. I expect NMS to strongly hit the charts, not only as a space game, but as a game period. I'm looking forward to play it. XenonS

RE: No Man's Sky

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:24 pm
by Pinback
My only major concern with the game is will it be able to play it without being connected to the internet which is still a bit vague at the moment and I did hear Murry mention servers a couple of times, Which makes me think it might be another always on DRM. Wonder if any of the alien races mention in the video have their home worlds with big cities on then rather than just a few buildings.