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RIP Edgar Froese... 

tangerine dream, when i was in berlin 1990 to see "the Wall", we was watching a movie of them, it was at a exhibition only for tangerine dream. tichy why and not :)we must all die, there is no way getting around this, i think already RIP is something stupid, there is no rest and no peace, because there is nothing such left.it's the end of the line and personally i'm convinced if you are aware of that, if you look in the eyes of dead, you turn to a different person,loving life much more and you will have far more respect to all living creatures, because1) that's not easy, it blows our mind, it exceeds our imagination not to exist, but one can learn to face it2) there will be no hope or guessing you could end up "better" as someone else, because you was a "better man" for which reason ever, nothing counts,not intellect, not name, not status, not money - "i got no hair and no color i even didn't have a gender"3) the logical conclusion is, you stop to judge you can't see yourself as something better, you can't think i'm more worthy as others if there is no afterlife,no "compensation" or "wage".the only things which live eternally are our good works, bad works will vanish in time, just like the biggest kingdoms have vanished (solomon? yeah he often said such).in priciples the fate of "Hiob" should tell us this, but rel ppl. turn everthing upside down,they take everything literally and put a golden frame around single words even single letters instead to think about the sense.you can be the most rightous and "godly" ever, it won't prevent you from fate and dead. easy as 1) 2) 3) What's left are our thoughts and creations, they can be carried in the collective memory of humankind forever, that's "eternity" to me,we have no idea who invented the wheel, but for sure his work is never forgotten.but one condition it has, mankind must survive for this, not a single examplary.and what does that ask of us humans? consequnce in life and respect to your sister/brother should i change the rules for "pioneer musical appreciation"?on atariage they have a similar thread, but it's a simple game, you are only allowed to post titles and artist which contain at least one complete word of the previous postedfurther it's only allowed to post one until a next one posted something. they don't post clips, or it's not needed for such a game, but the idea i like. i.e.Cody posted "Tangerine Dream - Phaedra" now i would have to find something which contains one of these words, complete and also "Dreams" instead of "Dream" wouldn't be 100% proper. however, i think that's cool, you can post as always but i will take this little challange and keep te rules i mentioned.  obviousely posting a title of the same artist would be lame. and certainly you still can post comments, thoughts, memories, because i like to hear your thoughts and memories, share them.

not a good idea?however something space related  more,[/url] http://astrosmash.rocks.it/[/url] since that is a lot of space-games music i oggyfied that all: http://1drv.ms/1CzwkyQ[/url]

in despite of repetition  edit: oops that seems to be the wrong clip, never mind...next post. but you have to admit the real mario plumber is great, no? "his back hurts like hell and his roids are flaring up".... ahh, that's how you feel as a construction worker, yeah that's the proper Mario feeling.

yes thanks geraldine, but like i said "wrong clip", happens when you watch so many different things, i like to follow this guy here: jeriand i don't know what else and this mixes up things sometimes. ok let's post another portal clip which i think it's a nice one followed by the proper mario, it should be a clip about what sort of mario was never or should be relesed. just because it's cute: now let's see what sort of mario we missed: & luigi, partners in crime" lol. and a cover of a well know tune, of which i think it's almost better as the original, music has more power and the clip is fantastic,classic cartoon art, yes we don't need anime, we can do it better!that's EXPRESSION! i'm really not the heavy guybut Disturbed is a damned good band.apart from that their clips transport the messages of the songs unmisunderstandable and this is great to. really great i start to like this band, what i watched quite a lot in the past few days is "the angry video game nerd", over all Cinemassacre is a entertaining channel. sorry if i post a third one of disturbed but... in principles the mario clip wasn't really needed it was just because of this: 

i'm really not the heavy guybut Disturbed is a damned good band.apart from that their clips transport the messages of the songs unmisunderstandable and this is great to. really great i start to like this band, Ha, young padawan you know how to discern the dark side is not necessarily bad ^^ For my part, I listen as these news groups of heavy / thrash metal that my olds classics hard rock. Long live rock hard! Succession is assured

@Gernot But distrubed is already old, the group has been discontinued crack in 2010. The actuality is Device group recreated by the singer:  Edit: If you like that, here's the link to the playlist of their only album with the lyrics (it's even better to plunge into the dark side, the lyrics to read :spiteful: )  And here the splendid cover of this jewel from 2012 (sick) : 

i thought it will somehow attract you vuzz,i wouldn't know it at all without the "musical game" on "atari age forum".but one member is posting a lot of metal and it's good what he posts. yes i noticed it's "old" (quasi) but certainly had no idea the band broke up.good to hear he still sings, he's really a good singer. while hmm "dark side"? ok it's loud and metal,but to me this didn't classifies something already as "dark side" (not anymore, i really was biased in my past, but i guess i changed quite after divorce and one or two years of living in the streetsit erased the last remnants of the "new apostolic brainwashing" i was gettin' through in my youth,which was mainly prejudice to "heavy music" and "homophobia") phew, it must be 20 years ago, i guess i still should have the poster of that party,howeverthe "dead end?" played and after the dj changed to a sort of metal. that was "dark matter", the lyrics was about self destruction and suicide, it's something i really dislike, neither the music was really good.the effect on listeners/party ppl was also very clear to recognize, most left the building and was scared about the music, even if they didn't understood english.you see there is truely a effect of music and lyrics even if you don't understand a word. eh, since long i don't believe anymore and if there is no god there is no devil as well and certainly no hell or heaven.thus neither "dark" or "bright" side exists for me, even if i'm famous for back&white thinking :)but that's just "a good is a good and a bad is a bad", (un)fortunately this is "black & white thinking"and means nothing else asit doesn't matters whoit doesn't matters howit only matters if it's a good acting / thing or not. but it reaches our subconcious mind and is able to even influence it, thus one should know about what he sings and what effect this can have.you can raise ppl to a war with music and enterntainment, it can be abused for bad as well as used for pleasure or to reach positive thoughts. but Disturbed and other bands he posts in the "musical game" are different to that, it's metal and sometimes it overwhelmes me, but the lyrics are usually positive in expression. fight back and fight hard i have no problem with that's a positive expression.it's contrairy to self destruction, it means stay alive and fight to live. certainly even i had depressive times and i thought about to suicide, but i don't like to be remembered of such. "stand up and fight" - that's far better, it helps you to leave such a depressive phase in life behind. it's also ok to sing about suicidal feelings, why not? it matters how you do it, what feeling it produces in the listener.if it's a sort of consolation which it releases in you it's certainly a good thing. but if you see that common ppl who aren't really attentive listening get scared by the music then something is wrong with that. and hey one can say what he likes, but to save one from self destruction, just one, isn't that far more worth as all the gold and fame in the world?yes truely it's far better. "we are all like babies in avalon" to operate in the world of subconciousness is very dangerous, true we are all like babies in this sort of parallel world and even if someone thinks he knows exactly what he does,he can't know it exactly and the result can be a catastrophe for a soul. but music and pictures have this power, they are strong weapons in the world of subconciousness.that has nothing to do with magic, it's "we are just playing with opportunities" like jerry said once. on the other hand it's near to easy,if your intention is good and unselfish the result will be as well, exactly like in the world of conciousness.stay naive and you won't hurt. but if the goal is only fame and gold......then you do the same fault as "Morgan le Fay" and the result is destructive. but which style you choose in your art,i.e. for music if it's classical or metal won't play a role for this. still his voice rocks the sound... and to shorten the above text to a quote from David Drainman: "if you don't dig it don't listen to it"

i hope you understand i joke alls guy who'se denigrate metal music when i've talk about "the dark side" ^^

no problem vuzz, i understand most humans. i'm by myself a member of the armies of night, right?right! c'mon a guy like me who occasionally hangs out at 5am (after work party) with whores?not much i don't understand. "and now for something complete different"  

Hhhmmm i pefer this version

certainly, but well a original is always the original. no way to compare them, that's well fiddled. intentionally i posted popcorn because i stumbled over it and someone* commented "ahead of it's time" (1969)i replyed to him not so ahead of it's time.the MOOG exists since the 50's (more or less) and Wendy Carlos recorded "switched on bach" together with the devs of MOOG in '68 http://www.moogarchives.com/[/url] some commented it's the beginning of:Electronic Dance MusicTranceHouse Music less nitpicking, it's the beginning of electronic music,not especially "popcorn", but the MOOG. a MOOGie explained: certainly this "toy" attracted a lot of musicians *that someone even posted to a different clip the near to same comment that's why i had to make a joke about it, when i noticed he commented almost the same again. but he was really a decade ahead of it's time, without any synthesizer except for his mouth.enjoy the hippest soul brother from 1956: you easy can see him as a predecessor to rock music,besides of this track which was covered by many rock bands,he had a crazy act in costumes and weared crazy hairdos, it was certainly ahead of the mid 50'she wasn't very successful at beginning.the rockbands which covered him gave him a little fame later in the mid sixties, also ppl was ready to listen to such "crap". the longplay is from back then is entitled "Frenzy" and i can only recommend this album, he's really great.to me he's the infamous and uncrowned godfather of soul.james brown is a beginner compared to him, for me at least. this boy here would be 18 now and was 4 (i guess) back then, he's quite a talent and a cheeky one. recently i lost myself in a analysis of clockwork orange if you have some spare time, his movie analysis are very good http://www.collativelearning.com/FILMS%20reviews%20BY%20ROB%20AGER.html[/url] as a example a less serious ment one of him but sci-fi related one(the other clips are serious and very informative, he made this as he said for the trolls on his channel)  one must respect that it's professional made (not especially the alien satire) and it's somewhat obvious he likes to earn money with most of his clips.

Gernot, I have that Gershon Kingsley album! I got it as a present when it first came out. The nipple-flower cover looked as tacky then as it does now! edit: After listening to Popcorn on YouTube, I saw "Mix - Gershon Kingsley - Popcorn" listed to the right. I've been listening to the 50+ songs in there, which are not all versions of Popcorn. I found two versions in there that I'd like to share. Aphex Twin sprinkles a liberal amount of salt on this batch. you prefer your Popcorn with hot butter, Also, how do you folks display the YouTube previews in your posts? All I can do is what you see above.

you got the single of that? makes me jealous. however it is played it's a nice tune "don't you just love this song" (song? tune) listened also to the version of a german synth artist?he added apache (and a further tune, what's that? a jingle form a tv crime series?) to it.  aphex twins is great, but i guess far later, it sounds like sampleswith acoustic guitar you never can go wrong (for my choice, i could listen night and day to it). the YT clips should parse automatic, but you have to use the entry in the adress bar that it will work. either the whole "strip" (quotation marks are only added not to let it get parsed or appear as link)" or without the playlist or whatever "&"" the result will be: playlists unfortunatly doesn't work this way i tested this, because i would have liked to link the playlist of "Astrosmash"one of my clips i didn't dare to show here, "Space C*nt" is on the limit for a post in a forum.at least i guess, i wonder what the dev had in mind when he made the game, resp. changed the graphics. if i made once one i will link a clip of "Space Shuttle" i guess you will like this incomplete game from '83,at least i was freakin' out and thought "1983? wow" of course the graphics are compliant to the age, but the concept of the game totally convinces me.i've read to "space shuttle" that they thought it would be to much simulation for a game, totally missed the point, it would have been outstanding for it's time.if i would have owned such a game it would have sealed the lips of all who thought Intellivision is lame of some sort or Astrosmash is the maximum you can reach with it.the problem was rather that first 16kB then 32kB later 48kB was the limit for a ROM back then. "ground control to commander - warning space debris!"sorta voice supported shuttle simulator, how far would that have been ahead of it's time? i don't know maybe i posted this already (probably in a PM?) let's find out who or where the "dark side" really is:  following is a little off topic, but it's such beautiful to watch that i have to share this: 

I don't have the single, I have the original LP.I hadn't seen those videos. They were really cool.Thanks for the tips. I tried an experimental post and got the same result. Just a link. I was inserting them as links. I fumbled around and accidentally pasted the URL directly into the post with this result. I've posted this before. Sorry. sorry.

can't remember that clip you posted marcel, well recently that boy IS IN A THERAPY, never mind - that's ok (yes, some knew it always gernot is a true lunatic ). and you can imagine gernot already mixes all up there..."what depression? - c'mon let's get funky" --- "i've got the power" (listened to SNAP, to get over the "depression" that my computer was killed by a electro magnetical bomb, or else i have no explanation to what has happened,few weeks ago i left for shopping and shut down the machine as usual...returned switched it on and the "beep" was the very last response it gave, rebooted and nothing happened anymore, not even a "beep", just nothing, even the drive is damaged.damned i lost everything, every model i made last summer (that's because my backup drive broke in fall last year, even strange, i was backing up "a few GBytes and someone must have let the smoke out of it, it wen't hotter and hotter and finally well finally "the smoke was out of it"). for a week i was really down before i thought "ok, you have to face it, dig out your old machine, which isn't a bad one only recently i have to work with a rotten old ATI hybrid gfx card(a Radeon 9000 with incredible 64MB of gfx memory), the motherboard would have PCI express slot but my NVIDIA PCI express card won't work with a windows XP, it needs DX10 at least i assume,physically it works but as soon as i install the drivers windows refuses to run. but i will see the machine isn't the problem, i have some spare money for "special occasions" and will use it to buy me a new one (but certainly no cheap discounter machine anymore, now i know where the difference is between them) or at least to pimp my old machine, because she's so reliable, loud like a coffee grinder, but reliable (chassis ventilation, but keeps the CPU a cool head, somewhat around very healthy 40°C). personally i assume the cheap "MEDION" died because of jealousy, because a week before i placed my old miggy beside it, that must be the real reason, it couldn't stand the competition.past weeks and recently i'm still setting it up, phew, already reinstalling all the games and crap costs a lot of time, many won't run well with such a low specced gfx card,but UAE doesn't minds much about that, fortunately. yes, running obsolate XP, but if you register it as a industrial server you still get support up to 2019 from MS (needs just a small entry in the registry).damned i even was able to register my old "works for windows", a few days it refused to register but after two weeks it did it automatically, i was really surprised. on the other hand, ok no problems running old games, ha, ha, i guess it was needed to force my to reinstall XP on my old computer. and well, personally i have a lot of fun with the old crap, yep i even bought my Intellivision just to play on the original hardware which is absolutely cool and now i know exactly why i decided back thenfor the Intellivision, it was ahead of its time. erm "nineteen fourty eight" that's ok (yes, the inty is somewhat older)  rythm is a dancer?sorta apart from all the hassle, i swear the music is 10 times better to listen from my old Soundblaster card as from the shitty 7.1 wishi-washi "built in" before, it never produced such a accurate stereo signal,how could it without "discrete elements", that's simply not possible since "every amplifier oscillates" (and vice versa), amps need to be adjusted and a one chip soundcard you can't adjust. further i can use the old "PC joystick" (which i showed you geraldine, simply "the joystick"), with the SB card and it's cool to use it for old games, i tried it for "NFS High Stakes" and wow it's very accurate, you can steer very softly, complete different to the small sticks on my PSX like dual stick with which you usually oversteer it's like using a digital pad and the wheels flap from max left to max right.usually i dislike to accel - decelerate with the stick, but this stick works well to play a racing game in this way, you can accelerate very soft without to lead either to left or right side.it's damned simple, just two var. resistors, a little sensitive to temperature, but overall not bad because the mechanic leads you in the four main directions, thus you don't slip to left or right or diagonal if you don't like to. it's super cool to use it for MAME and gives a far better arcade feeling as the dual stick, also to play a emulated amiga game it's great to use it for. new doesn't (always) equals to better! i even found out that i need a old ball mouse, the optical crap isn't as good as they was, less precision and unsuitable to play Golf (i can't swing back proper, the game reads it as forward as well). isn't that a (25year old) beauty?that's technology!industrial standard quality parts. (besides that's "only" 5 MPixels, but can your i-phone make such quality shots? - no!it's still the optical device which makes the picture, no 12 or more MPixels, filters and enhancements can replace a good lens and a clean prism.that's how it looks for real and no postprocessing "bubble gum" colors) something else,anyone got a idea what a "glamour cap" is? hmm...my imagination was this -> or this -> in factthats how they named the power switch in the service manual for the intellivision, "glamour cap".... ok - NOW WE ALL KNOW IT BETTER a "glamour cap" is a power switch! anyone can have a power switch, but only the Intellivision offers you the unique "glamour cap". ---- now to your posts Cody, erm i guess i'm "not allowed" to listen to that anymore  because if i listen to that i like to light up a single bomb,it's a fact i'm in a therapy, no drug therapy, but i had to promise to stop using weed for the durance of the therapy.a quite uncommon and hard decision for "potsmoke66", but it seems i need this help to get things straight again. most might be in this because of depressions, but in my case it's vice versa, i need this to come down from my almost permanent euphoria, it can be hindering as well if it's to much. sure i'm still allowed to listen and for sure i will listen to pig pens rap  to be honest, sometimes it thrills me even more when i'm sober, i have a feeling like i would be on a permanent LSD trip --- everyday a high and music, well music.. was my first love! OHHHH WELL!  --- if only this wouldn't have crossed my path... [attachment=3030:wingcommander_amigabox.jpg] ugh, sorry RE-BOP! (baba) 

let's get heavy, let's get real heavy,here comes the bullet headed saxon, you better run for cover