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RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:31 am
by Marcel
Speaking of Ubuntu, I've been thinking of switching to it. I can run it from the DVD, but I can't get the 32 bit Linux version of Pioneer to run. It says there's no application to run executable files. Anybody want to toss me a clue?
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:39 am
by Rhonijin
Marcel, on 15 Mar 2013 - 13:30, said:Speaking of Ubuntu, I've been thinking of switching to it. I can run it from the DVD, but I can't get the 32 bit Linux version of Pioneer to run. It says there's no application to run executable files. Anybody want to toss me a clue?I think it's missing a dependancy (I think it's called GLEW) since Ubuntu is using a newer version of it. I got it working by compiling from source, though I recently read somewhere that it can also work if you make a soft-link from the newer GLEW to the older one using the terminal. I'd have to look up how to do that, though.Ok, found it. Try going into the terminal and using:sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGLEW.so.1.X /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGLEW.so.1.5thensudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGLEW.so.1.X.0 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGLEW.so.1.5.0Just be sure to replace the "X" with the version number you actually have in that directory, and see if it works. If not, you may have to compile like I did.Also (just thought of it), be sure to check to see if the permissions to execute Pioneer as a program are enabled. Just right click on the executable, and go to properties. Then go to the permissions tab. There should be a check-box that says "Allow executing file as program", and make sure that's checked in.
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:23 am
by Marcel
Thanks! I'll try it in a couple of days when I have the time. That permissions box wouldn't allow me to check it. I guess it's the missing dependency. Does this mean I have to actually install Ubuntu before I can do this?Also, sorry I don't have a clue about your graphics problem.
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:28 am
by fluffyfreak
Hi everyone, I'm really new to Pioneer, and I'm experiencing a minor graphical problem that I don't know how to fix. There are these see-through areas on planets that usually occur on the horizon (especially on Earth's oceans, which can be seen on the screenshot I'm attatching) or when the planet is really far away. I'm guessing this is a shader problem, but I updated all of my graphics drivers and they still appear. The version I'm using is Alpha 33, and I'm on a Linux system (Ubuntu 12.10 32-bit) with an Nvidia 7600 GS, if that helps. Aside from this small issue and the minor bugs that occur every now and then, the game seems to be working fantastically and looks great. Anyone know what the problem might be? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, is there any way to turn off the HUD for taking screenshots? Hmm, that looks like it might be some kind of precision issue or a value exceeding a limit in the shader. Out of interest do you use the nVidia binary or the open source Nouveau one?Could you try turning down the detail level for the terrain? Or just playing with those options and see what affects it. I don't think there's a way of turning off the HUD, I might be wrong, we'll have to wait and see if someone else chimes in. Andy
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:19 pm
by Rhonijin
Hmm, that looks like it might be some kind of precision issue or a value exceeding a limit in the shader. Out of interest do you use the nVidia binary or the open source Nouveau one?Could you try turning down the detail level for the terrain? Or just playing with those options and see what affects it. I don't think there's a way of turning off the HUD, I might be wrong, we'll have to wait and see if someone else chimes in. Andy Thanks for the advice! Well, this is embarassing...your method of turning down the terrain detail level did indeed work, but after some additional fiddling it turns out that the problem all along was with Anti-Aliasing. I thought that I had disabled it in the Pioneer config file, but I completely forgot that I had set the Nvidia card to override. Btw, I'm just using the Nvidia binary I got through synaptic. Thanks again for your help. Thanks! I'll try it in a couple of days when I have the time. That permissions box wouldn't allow me to check it. I guess it's the missing dependency. Does this mean I have to actually install Ubuntu before I can do this?Also, sorry I don't have a clue about your graphics problem. Hmm... If it doesn't even let you click the check-box, it could mean that the file itself belongs to another user (possibly "Root" user), and it won't let you change permissions unless you log in as that user. This happens to me on rare occasions as well, but if that's the case then all you have to do is change who that file belongs to in the properties menu while logged in as the owning user, and if that doesn't work then you can try to download the file again to see if the permissions will be set correctly. Otherwise it will have to be changed manually through the terminal.
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:38 pm
by mikehgentry
Speaking of Ubuntu, I've been thinking of switching to it. I can run it from the DVD, but I can't get the 32 bit Linux version of Pioneer to run. It says there's no application to run executable files. Anybody want to toss me a clue? That sounds almost like you might be trying to run the Windows binary... You positive you got the right link? If you open a terminal, then cd into the directory you've unpacked / compiled Pioneer into, then run ./pioneer (./ is Linux notation for 'look in this directory'), it should give you error output explaining the problem if it doesn't want to run. If you're thinking of trying Linux, but not sure yet, I'd suggest running it in a virtual machine first. Virtualbox is ridiculously (as in completely ridiculously) easy to use. It won't run at native speed, sure (you're certainly not going to play Pioneer on it, anyway), but it'll give you a safe sandbox for familiarising yourself with how things work before taking the plunge. Alternatively of course there's dual-booting - it's not that hard to set up, especially if you have two hard drives.
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:28 pm
by Marcel
I'm definitely trying to run the Linux version. I'm running Ubuntu directly from the DVD so there's no log in required. I'm guessing that may be the issue. I'm planning to set up a dual boot with XP because Microsoft is telling me the copy of Win7 Ultimate that was installed on the used computer I bought isn't genuine and it would cost me $200 to correct this. I have a couple of programs that don't run well under Wine, or so I've heard. Thanks again to both of you.
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:21 am
by fluffyfreak
Microsoft is telling me the copy of Win7 Ultimate that was installed on the used computer I bought isn't genuine and it would cost me $200 to correct this. Do you have a copy of the DVD / or more importantly the little sticker with the Windows 7 product/activation code on it?Because if you do you just need to take a photo of it, contact MS by phone - often the activation/invalid thingy has phone numbers to call, and tell them that if the product code is in use elsewhere then it's not your fault and someone else must be using it illegally - the photo is if they ask for proof.You could mention that the machine is second hand but that the OS came with the machine originally - although I wouldn't bother.OEM copies of Windows are licensed to the machine, not the user, so when you sell the machine you have to buy a new license for your new machine.... technically, not that people do. The old license goes to whoever bought the machine, i.e: you, because you have the shiny sticker. They should issue you with another code without you having to buy one. Oh and for dual booting, always install Linux 2nd

RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:22 am
by Marcel
No sticker, DVD or activation code. I didn't think about it at the time. Caveat emptor, eh?
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:23 pm
by Jameson4
I am playing with pioneer-alpha32-version without any mod. I do have a problem to dock on stations in Qugre (-5,-11,0) by using the autopilot. I also tried to fly manually, but the flight is stuttering on final.
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:41 am
by fluffyfreak
Could you explain what you mean by "flight is stuttering on final"? I don't understand.
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:30 am
by Jameson4
Could you explain what you mean by "flight is stuttering on final"? I don't understand.I try to do, my english is not my birth language.After i have jumped into this sector, i choose one of the two stations and activate the autopilot. At the height of about 780 km to the station my ship resumes at altitude, and playing on fast time (+3) the game is stuttering totally and it seems to be freezed. Maybe it is a bug, or my ship can not handle with this system because of the difficult gravity of the planet.
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:45 am
by walterar
It is exactly the same in Hendeson Village - Daurwa (4,6, -14) Let's make a list of "Notice to Pioneers".

RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:10 am
by fluffyfreak
Just a single situation that is easy to reproduce is best thanks. Once we know about it, and how to recreate the circumstances where it happens we can start to understand what causes it and then finally how we might fix it

If you can find a nice easy method, as you have above, then we can get onto trying it out with a debugger attached. @jameson4 & @walterar, thansk for giving us the coordinates etc, it should make it easier to find. Andy
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:28 am
by walterar
In both cases there is a "red giant". Until this is resolved, you must be careful with the giant stars.

RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:40 am
by Jameson4
In both cases there is a "red giant". Until this is resolved, you must be careful with the giant stars. :)btw, i wonder how people in a colony can survive with a red giant in their system. :jester:
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:20 pm
by walterar
"btw, i wonder how people in a colony can survive with a red giant in their system."The mysteries of the Great Developer only be explained by faith. :rabbi:
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:14 pm
by fluffyfreak
Good sun block

RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:13 am
by Jameson4
I do have detected two bugs ingame:1. The inside view is mostly not available. Pressing F1 displays only outside views. Quitting the game and reloading does not help.2. Marking another ship and pressing any joystick button who is not assigned to lunch a rocket, lunches a rocket.
RE: !! Pioneer Question Time !! - Ask them here
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:07 pm
by spazeman
Hi guys! not played for a couple of versions but looks good. I think removing elite content will be a good think in future. Could someone tell me how to add another race? I thought I might make tinker with a robot facegen and just plonked it in as race_4 but couldn't find the file to add another race. I'm assuming it's fairly simple...