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Mostly Harmless
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:16 pm
by Pinback
Mod to convert the original Elite into Freelancer [url]http://www.moddb.com/mods/freelancer-mostly-harmless[/url] I seem to a have bit of problem in that I I can not get Freelancer to work I have reinstalled it but it just plays the intro then crashes to desktop. Will have to see if it will work on the Windows 7 computer.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:26 am
by Stormprooter
Hi Pinback, It can be tricky getting FL to work sometimes. Best approach is to completely uninstall, and make sure to remove all data from <My Documents>My GamesFreelancer folder, do a completely clean install, and then apply any mods. Also with Vista/Win7/Win8 remember to disable 3D sound as this causes problems with some modern audio hardware, and if you're not using a widescreen monitor you will need to alter the HudShift.ini file under DATAINTERFACE under you installation folder. I will have to pull my finger out and get thses niggles sorted out....
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:42 am
by Gunbladelad
That is an issue with some mods. What to do is make a couple of sub-folders (one for each mod you use (under XP the folder is "My DocumentsMy GamesFreelancerAcctsSinglePlayer" - make your sub-folders there and name them in such a way you won't mix them up, for example, one called "Mostly Harmless" and one called, "Vanilla"). With those folders in place, delete all files in the singleplayer folder itself (or move them to the folder for the mod) then start up the game. Remember to get the autosave and restart files. If the game doesn't detect them there it creates appropriate ones for the mod currently being run.Each time you wish to play a different mod (or the vanilla install of Freelancer), you MUST remember to move the files around or you'll get the crash to desktop after the splash screen. Freelancer in general tends to read the save files while the splash screen's up and if it comes across one with data that doesn't match the ingame universe, it has trouble coping and crashes to the desktop without explanation.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:46 am
by Stormprooter
What Gun said. If you use FLMM to apply the mods, it will sort this out for you in most cases.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:17 am
by Gunbladelad
Agreed - FLMM does actually do this automatically for most mods, but it doesn't seem to do this for "Mostly Harmless" at the moment. It's easy enough to do manually though.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:20 am
by Stormprooter
Hehehe, it works on my machine

(Classic developer's response) Obviously I've missed something somewhere... another bug to hunt down.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:42 am
by Gunbladelad
It may be to do with the version of FLMM rather than the mod itself - I'm currently using 1.3 because it's compatible with the widest variety of Mods. Even so, it's always handy for people to know of solutions to minor issues like this.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:06 pm
by Pinback
I have tried a re install Freelancer on the XP computer but it had the same results as above. Will look at cleaning out all of the freelancer folders from the c drive and then doing the re install.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:49 pm
by Gunbladelad
As I said, make sure that the save folder is empty. When you install Freelancer it automatically creates the restart.fl file, so make sure that's not in the folder when you start the mod. Out of interest, does Freelancer itself (without the mostly harmless mod) crash to desktop upon installation, or is it just the mod?
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:55 am
by Stormprooter
Thanks for picking this up Gun - most appreciated.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:35 pm
by Pinback
Out of interest, does Freelancer itself (without the mostly harmless mod) crash to desktop upon installation, or is it just the mod? I installed the mod which installed itself into FLMM then started the mod which showed the Elite Harmless screen then it crashed. It was then that I noticed that Freelancer had stop working, not had a chance to get back to it at the moment and it will probable be the weekend before I have chance to look at reinstalling the game.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:26 pm
by Gunbladelad
OK, what to do is what I suggested - navigate to the save game folder ( "My DocumentsMy GamesFreelancerAcctsSinglePlayer" ), delete all files from in there, then try launching the game again.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:51 pm
by Pinback
OK, what to do is what I suggested - navigate to the save game folder ( "My DocumentsMy GamesFreelancerAcctsSinglePlayer" ), delete all files from in there, then try launching the game again. I don't seem to have that file in "my documents" the only one in their is the mod files, in less it is in with these ones.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:43 pm
by Gunbladelad
OK, launch Freelancer to start with (no mods), and it should create that folder then. If you want, start a new game, then quit right away. (this should also add in the "autosave.fl" file.) Once that's done, shift the files out of the folder as I said above, use FLMM to activate the "Mostly Harmless" mod, and it should run perfectly (with luck...)
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:30 am
by Stormprooter
I remember the first time I tried to apply a total conversion mod (The Void, I think it was) - took me 6 attempts before I completely sussed out all the niggles involved in applying FL mods. It's not extremely difficult, but at the same time, it's not always straightforward if you are unfamiliar with the process. Now I have a copy of a clean FL installation backed up to save having to re-install every time I mess it up.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:06 am
by Pinback
I just not being able to get Freelancer to run, I have uninstalled and installed it a number of time as well as uninstalling FLMM with no effect. My only guess is that their maybe some thing wrong with the disk.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:14 am
by Gunbladelad
If Freelancer itself isn't working then it does sound like a bad install. I'm sure that Amazon will likely still have copies of the game still going relatively cheaply if you want to try a different disc. I'm sure there are dubious websites & hosts out there with downloadable copies, but I wouldn't trust them a bit.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:41 am
by Stormprooter
Silly question, but are DirectX8 + 9 installed correctly on the machine? You can try installing directX off the installation folder that is on the Freelancer disk - you may find you have one of the dlls missing....
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:02 pm
by Pinback
Never thought about about the DX as the other games are still working. Will have a look.
RE: Mostly Harmless
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:34 am
by Stormprooter
Well, finally I can get back to some 3D modelling this weekend, after several false starts due to work and family stuff. Gotta get those rotating stations done!