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Is Pioneer dead?

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 4:20 am
by Master Tron
I just recently downloaded Pioneer from the main website, version 20220203, and looking through this forum, I find there's other better versions, but they're not available anymore, except version pioneersp-g29f-w32l32l64, which looking at videos I see on this forum, look nothing like them at all, and when I try to download what is supposed to be better versions, the links to Dropbox no longer exist, and the last post was in 2019, so I'm wondering now, if Pioneer is still in active development, if so, then below is a major drawback between the sp version and the 20220203 version.
pioneersp-g29f-w32l32l64 is very, very buggy when using a lot of the in-game menus, the cursor is so slow that move the mouse a little and wait for around 15 seconds, then the cursor moves, but the 20220203 version is very smooth, also in the 20220203 version I can use ultra GFX, but I can't in the sp version, was the sp version compiled using a different GFX engine?

RE: Is Pioneer dead?

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 1:53 pm
by wkfo
Pioneer isn't dead. pioneersp (Pioneer Scout+) is not a "better" version of the game, it is a "different" version which was developed from a much earlier version of Pioneer. The one you can find on the main website is still being developed, I think there is a new release, like, every 6 months.
I don't know about Scout+ though, neither about the technical problems nor whether it is still worked on. Scout+ resembles old versions of Pioneer a lot more than modern Pioneer does IMO.

RE: Is Pioneer dead?

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 12:45 pm
by nozmajner
Yes, Pioneer is alive and well. Severly undermanned, and we have very little time usually, but we are still here chugging along. This forum does not see much activitiy these days. The dev team is active on IRC, and the discord server sees occasional activity too.
(Allow me to tease a huge update to the flight computer which improves flight a lot, and hopefully no issue will keep it from merge, and will be in the next release. Which should be around August if we keep the half-a-year schedule)
Scout+ started as a mod, but then it needed binary changes as well, so it became a fork, a different version of Pioneer. As far as I know the last update was several years ago, and mainline Pioneer received lots of, polish and new features since then that are not present in Scout+.

RE: Is Pioneer dead?

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:33 pm
by Cody
It lives! Like its cousin Oolite, which is also undermanned, dev-wise and forum-wise.

RE: Is Pioneer dead?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:55 pm
by impaktor
For future reference, you can always see the actual progress of the game development in the Changelog.txt
I believe it would be a hard task to find a month with zero activity. Every single month, some tweak, bugfix, feature, or asset is merged.

RE: Is Pioneer dead?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:35 am
by Geraldine
If I recall correctly, there were several versions of Pioneer over the years. Walterar did Scout, Gernot did another version and Vuzz did yet another version. These were all independent of the present builds nozmajner and others are now doing. Finally, I think there was also another version on Steam, but that was very different to the original builds. I used to maintain a presence on Mod DB for the game but ran out of time as my life got busy, but many of the old builds are still up there. I'll provide a link below. Who knows, maybe I'll get around to updating it again some day.
[url]https://www.moddb.com/games/pioneer[/url]

RE: Is Pioneer dead?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 9:07 am
by nozmajner
Geraldine, hey! :) Nice to see you

RE: Is Pioneer dead?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 5:08 pm
by Geraldine
@nozmajner Still alive...um...just!

Re: Is Pioneer dead?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2026 11:35 am
by ZakGordon25
I recently downloaded and managed to run "pioneer-linux-x64-20250501" on my Debian MX Linux OS. I had to manually update OpenGL and a couple of other things (thanks internet and Grok for pointing out what i needed!) to get it to run, but i've been trying it out and modding a few things over the last couple of weeks.

Very smooth after the install issues (just a typical linux gaming issue) and no crashes, other than into planets off course :) So thank you to all the people that make this a great free game for those that like their space games a little more realistic.