Enterprise Refit

[walterar]

Compiling is important. I just take the time it takes my computer, which is not very fast. 108 seconds, less than two minutes. This allows me to make many changes of code per hour. <img src="'[url]http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//prankster.gif[/url] class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':prankster:' /> Many years ago (almost 30) I was to buy a Apple 2, but then I decided on TRS-80, with Z80 and a whopping 48K of RAM! <img src="'[url]http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//haha.gif[/url] class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />It's a shame that I can not help you on this. <img src="'[url]http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//sad.gif[/url] class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /> Andy has Mac?As for ST, I have a collection of CDs. I'll see them again, this time from a different perspective.

[walterar]

Visiting Achernar, are (Mods) surface and orbital stations P66 and Marcel. I have not seen, yet, parked the (Mod) Enterprise Vuzz. I changed the color of my ship (Mod). Red is my favorite. But I could not find any giant chicken.

[Potsmoke66]

looks like you have a quite good computer walterar, if i think: big city, with my port, screencapture is running, AND it runs still fluid.i have to restrict a lot for a screencapture on the macbook.nice new adverts!overall marcels stations grow and grow and grow...like a little plant that grows slowly to a big tree.---to the compiling "issue", still yes, it really seems to be impossible to get the missing libraries installed on the mac, so i gave it up. one day my PC will be back in action, but that can take a little while.but like i said i can still do some changes with a nasty hack, no matter which OS's version of pioneers executable (in case of changing the default ships for a Trek Mod).but we need anyway some ships and stations first.i tried to download one of the ships from the page fluffyfreak mentioned, but have encountered even some problems, but i got in contact with the modeler and hope he can export it for me to a "cleaned" model, i don't need all the animation paths, lights and stuff you need for a rendering, i only need the bareboned model.---also i got in contact with sanguinelabs, they provide a animation library to animate wavefront in a clever way FOR FREE USE.this seems to me the right thing for us.but even there i banged into a wall, they offer no mac version, neither of the animation studio (which is not necessary needed) nor for the library.like i said, i contacted them and hope they can help me, also because the description pdf's are empty. a little strange no?further i'm not sure if our devs have to implement the library (i think so) or how it works at all, that's mainly why i contacted them.by the short description on the homepage of sanguinelabs it is to read that you can use it without altering the existing code?if i interprete this right, it would mean we could use it "out of the box" and have nothing to change.just imagine, you wouldn't have to mess anymore with the scripted animations and can make them with blender as usual.but i have to wait for a answer to see if that will work for us.even the animation studio is very good in price, £9.99 isn't much money for a program like this.---interesting how the appearing problems of a ST mod can force everything. for my part at least.but the idea was to make it a little easier for people like (edit:)Azimech to convert ship models from elsewhere to pioneer.

[walterar]

Pioneers Chronicles - Stardate: 3224 August 23Location: SolReplica of the famous USS Enterprise (NCC-1701).The Class Battlecruiser Starfleet Constitution of the United Federation of Planets and one of the flagships of it, was built in 2245. Today, after almost 1000 years, has just rolled out a replica, suitable for super luxury cruises, residence of wealthy politicians, businessmen, union leaders, and perhaps you.It is estimated that five of these ships have been built and are in demo tour. Occasionally, they may be parked in the vicinity of orbital stations.Before anyone asks: Why a ST ship here? <img src="'[url]http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//haha.gif[/url] class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />

[walterar]

"[background=rgb(33, 47, 58)]looks like you have a quite good computer walterar, if i think: big city, with my port, screencapture is running, AND it runs still fluid."[/background]No, not very powerful. My current workstation is:Micro: Intel ® Core ™ i3-2100 CPU@3.10GHz × 4Video: GPU included in micro, Intel ® Sandybridge DesktopMotherboard: Gigabyte GA-H61M-USB3-B3RAM: 8 GB DDR3 1333 MHz KingstonOS: Ubuntu Linux 12.04 64-bitI build my own computers since 1982 with selected components.The way the screen capture is the next line in the terminal:ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1024x768 -r 15 -i :0.0 -b 25000k -an filexx.aviWith -an, delete the audio channel for lighter aviI think ffmpeg runs on MAC

[Potsmoke66]

nah, not very powerful...gosh, you make for sure some of us feel we work with a abakus.ok, in running the games it makes a big difference, but to be creative it won't matter, right marcel?well actually IT hurts sometimes that the MAC i'm working on has only about half of the power of my PC i had, mainly when i work with blender, sometimes it's really hard.but i've presented this LEGO StarWars spoof, this guy hasn't have got the best machines yet, but the result is great, he only had to wait "days" for rendering.so it's not a matter of power, it's a matter of creativity, i really love this clip, it's all made so accurate, you should watch his older animations.then you can see the extreme progress he made from one to the next project.something slightly different,i downloaded the NCC-1701A from top of the page fluffyfreak mentioned and have read in the read.me that it has cost him a year (or 4month if continously) of work to complete it!that is either slow (no it isn't) or he made it really accurate, it has some small leaks (as always) but the degree of detail is fantastic.oh besides, i could need a little help with that one, i really have problems to open the model with blender, that is either because of my "lame" MAC or because of the blender version he used, or both i guess.in blender 2.49/2.5x i can't display the textures and if i try to, it hangs.in blender 2.6 it looks fine but my machine stucks or whatever, at least i can't work proper on it.now i would appreciate it much if one could do a little job for me and simply open the model with preferably blender 2.6 and would export the model to wavefront .obj (you can export all into one model and use the matlib to, unlike for pioneer) and .png textures or whatever exchangable format.the rest, as fixing the slightly bad smoothing as well as setting up of the script you can leave to me.this is the requested model:[url]http://stblender.iin...eration1701.zip[/url] will need preferably blender 2.6 to open it proper.to sad he didn't offered it in a exchangable format, i think it's not very clever to do such and exchange models in blender or max internal formats, it closes other out. that's one reason why .obj or .3ds is so popular, it's easy to exchange, no matter what CAD software you use.also always choose a ascii format, this allows really everyone to open it and if you encounter problems, because of whatever, you still can work with a text editor on it to fix it.i allways was annoyed when people offered models in the MAX internal format, really, but it's the same shit if you choose blender internal format.and no question wavefront IS the best choice to exchange models. i think, except for this leak of missing animations, but i guess i know why it's missing. take directX meshes ".X" as example, if i don't work very attentive and be aware of certain issues which are bound to the pivots, objects alignment and such, then it's anyway impossible to open the model proper. most "homemade" ".X" models show exactly this leak and when opened all animated parts are either centered or splattered over the whole scene, alignment is wrong and the animation is lost anyway (still works, but what use if i.e. a landing gear is "miles" from it's original position(s) and works in wrong direction(s) ). that's of course also bound to the import/export scripts which aren't always "clean", so one script interpretes certain data different as the other script (it's this "shiity" matrix stuff and that it could be it has contradictory meanings, like you would turn a cup of coffee three times overhead and the other interpretes it as turned one and a half times overhead. further there is a declaration(s) on top of the model some scripts read/write this declaration some not, some in a different manner. i can fix such, since i know now where to change a certain matrix or how to add a additional matrix or how to "fix" the declaration, but only in "text" format of course.but imagine a large model, it can last easy a day until you worked yourself through all the data in a model. so i guess that's the reason why a true exchangable format like wavefront uses no animations, you will have no problems simply.i mean there are still people who use i.e. wings3d and reach brillant results.he encourages people on the other hand to: "do something nice with the model".so listen friend: "choose a exchangable format then, *!@*%!".anyway, i will give it a try tonight again, maybe it works and if i have to do it 3 or 4 times...noch was,i'm not sure, but do you folks know there exists a "StarTrek Phase 2"? this are fanmade new episodes of captain kirks crew...no professional (or only less) actors, but animation are of course great and the whole thing looks good to me.check it out on youtube, enter simply "StarTrek Phase 2" (without quotes certainly).why not link up one? this episode i watched today, it has sometimes lenghts in it, but overall it's good. found them while i was not succeeding in looking for StarTrek's very first Pilot movie ("The Cage"),shitty "copyright infringments", i cannot really understand why they don't offer this "old crap" legally on the web, i neither would mind about some ads, if i only could watch all episodes and i know a lot of people all around the world feel the same. not everybody lives in the states and can watch StarTrek TOS on CableTV whenever he likes to.but i know on the other hand they specced them digitally up and like to sell the stuff on DVD, argh...best in this manner: today we sell you TOS on DVD, tomorrow we sell you TOS remastered on DVD, in future we sell you TOS remastered with the additional scenes (wherefore we left them before away you idiot) on DVD and then we sell the same crap again on blueray.and if you are a real trekkie, yeah then you will buy all of them from us, bastard.

[walterar]

Gernot, This setting complete with: HD500, DVDRec, power of 600 Watts, etc, etc. I pay dollar 363.70 todayNow I understand why Swiss banks are preferred. As care money! <img src="'[url]http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//aikido.gif[/url] class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':aikido:' />

[walterar]

@potsmoke66 I just installed Blender 2.62 and think that this was what you wanted. It is the first time I use blender.federation1701-mtl-obj.zip [url]https://docs.google....TkplZzB6cS01REU[/url] had forgotten compress <img src="'[url]http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//icon_e_smile.gif[/url] class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

[Potsmoke66]

walterar, cool thanks.first i thought, hey that din't works...ah, perhaps i have to sign up first let's try...oh well, works fine!i haven't opened it yet and it has already getting late, i was watching to many episodes of "ST phase 2".swiss banks, yeah they will surely take "good care" of your money, damned!a little episode from real life:few, no, more then a few years ago, when i was still working for my former boss we had a big problem with the UBS,it took always 5 up to 10 days until we workers get the money transferred. (a internal transfer most had their account even on UBS, i can't imagines what takes so long, do they have to transfer (transport) the money with donkeys or what?)imagine what they can do with the money of thousends of workers when they hold it back just for one day, now multiply that shit.that's a lot of money they made while we was waiting for the hard earned money of a construction worker, hey we have duties, rent, food, children and such.anyone who reads this will understand that i wasn't amused about that, i rather like to blow them up for this behave.it has lasted until our boss warned them several times to stop this behave, else he will cancel his business account, which has finally worked out.i know they do this still, as long as you don't keep them from doing so.really i'm not allowed to express here in words what i think of them... choose from some very very nasty dirty evil spells.i mean they sit in a airconditioned room (which i probably have build) and make a lot money with the sweat and blood of us workers, while we can't pay the rent in time?isn't it enough that we have to carry them on our backs anyway?"all weapons charged and ready, sir"-"fire!"further do you understand now when i say: "i'm unemployed by choice"?i'm a real idiot i didn't have placed some "butyric acid bombs" in their air conditions!it's true i worked in many of their buildings, years ago even in the headquarter of UBS in zürich (zürich = zureich = to rich)headquarter of ZKB (cantonal bank of zürich)headquarter of zürich insuranceheadquarter of CS (credit suisse)and...there is not many big building in zürich where i havn't lend my hand to build it.well a few ones i'm even proud of, or at least one,the sports stadium, but that's already all i guess.ah, well university hospital, that's good to.the final workplace was headquarter of CS, that was when i decided to quit,they treatened us with a smoking prohibition and a finement of SFr 100.- if catched.(in a bareboned building, no furniture neither paint on the walls)stupid security guards everywhere (only to control, not because there was something someone could possibly steal or such).employees who looked at me as if i where a underdog, only because my clothes are dirtyand perhaps because i hold my head high when i passed them and dared to look in their eyes (not without my typical smile and a overfriendly "hello sir")we was not allowed to eat or just to drink a coffe in the same cantina.are we allowed at least to live on the same planet with them?somehow i wish not, because then they would have to build the building themself, if they are able to.i sweared then to myself that whatever might happen i will never only move my little finger for them!oh, yes what has made me laugh today, i've read in the newspaper that they send exactly such "managers" to the zoo to learn from the chimpanzee how to lead people with respect!what a joke!they can stare at chimpanzee as long as they will, but they will never ever learn this!

[walterar]

Gernot, I am amazed at what you tell me. It is, in most respects, the opposite of what happens in my country. The two extremes are bad. My country need to grow. In your country, be a child again. <img src="'[url]http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//unsure.gif[/url] class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' />

[walterar]

So, take a beer at Eagles Nest <img src="'[url]http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//drinks.gif[/url] class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':drinks:' />

[Potsmoke66]

"be a child again" yes, that was what a old women told me not to long ago.what she said was (she works for people, especially young people, who are unemployed like me and live from welfare):"i encourage all you youngsters to stop from working, enjoy your life and live from welfare, if they are only able to look for their own profit always and dind't think a second about real growth and give all of you a job and a fair income, they havn't deserved it better".it has surprised me and usually i feel small because i live from welfare, i don't agree to all what she said, but well, this had let me think, "ok maybe it's true, it's not our fault, it's not because we are all lazy bastards, it's because we have enough".that don't belongs here neither and it will be my last post about this matter, i'm here for Pioneer, a conversion of the NCC-1701 and the Trek mod.ok, one thing, eagles nest? (position of the former hidden control tower, of airport mollis)[attachment=1369:01010036.JPG]yes, i will certainly take a beer today afternoon (but not up there, i don't like to climb up there today), unfortunately with a high chance all alone, but ok, i will think of you and all the rest of folks i know from SSC, pioneer, FE2 & FFE, trekkies, sci-fi addicted, pilots, commanders, flibustier.

[walterar]

[background=rgb(33, 47, 58)]"overall marcels stations grow and grow and grow...[/background][background=rgb(33, 47, 58)]like a little plant that grows slowly to a big tree."[/background]It see the love for Pioneer of Marcel. It expresses in their very good jobs. <img src="'[url]http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//good.gif[/url] class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':good:' />

[walterar]

"[background=rgb(33, 47, 58)]i will certainly take a beer today afternoon"[/background]Long life, Gernot. Drink enough and seeks the company of your kind. Stay out of trouble with extraterrestrials. And then come back, not left wandering in other galaxies. He has friends in the Milky Way. <img src="'[url]http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//fans.gif[/url] class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':fans:' />

[Marcel]

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ok, in running the games it makes a big difference, but to be creative it won't matter, right marcel?
Yeah, I could make stuff on my old crappy computer but sometimes I couldn't see how it looked in the game. As an example, I spent a lot of time trying to fix the problem of the pads and elevators' floors being transparent in the forward view near the ship. I tried putting in sub flooring at various distances but when I got a newer machine I found out that the problem only existed on my old video card. Now I see that walterar's specs make my new machine look like poop! I don't care, It works and I like it a lot. I haven't had much time to water my little plant lately, but I'm doing a little bit at a time when I get the chance. Thanks for the kind words guys.

[Potsmoke66]

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walterar's specs make my new machine look like poop!
"dedeldum, dedeldei..."

[walterar]

Hey, I feel bad. I was going to change my i3 to i7, but now will change for Pentiun II 233. <img src="'[url]http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/public/style_emoticons//sarcastic.gif[/url] class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':sarcastic:' />

[Cody]

'walterar' wrote:
... change my i3 to i7, but now will change for Pentiun II 233.
Heh! I love my i5 760... but then I used to love my PIII 600E too!

[fluffyfreak]

Does anyone remember wtf this topic was originally about?

[robn]

'fluffyfreak' wrote:
Does anyone remember wtf this topic was originally about?
Right here is most of the reason I stay away from this forum. I'm more easily distracted that most people I know, and I've never seen anything travel offtopic quite as quickly as threads seem to around here.