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Modeling task: hoop spacestation

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 robn
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I've just merged this nice replacement for the hoop station from fluffyfreak:

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JazdHDq.png

Its shaping up well, but it still needs some love. Major things missing at this point are lights and a door. For extra credit it could use more bays inside.

The model itself will be in the next nightly, which I'll post in the next couple of hours. Max and Photoshop files are here.

If you're interested in playing with a model that already exists and improving something that is guaranteed to be in the game, now is a great chance.

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Topic starter Posted : January 28, 2013 01:41
(@mikehgentry)
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I might give that a go. Feeling a bit burned out with my ship, so something more manageable appeals. Is there anything resembling a time it needs to be done by?

 

For anyone else completely bamboozled by git / github, the web interface won't let you download the .psd file - it's too big. You can get a zip of the whole assets repository here:

 

https://github.com/pioneerspacesim/pioneer-assets

 

Or if you've got git installed:

 

$ git clone git://github.com/pioneerspacesim/pioneer-assets.git

 

There's probably a way to do a partial download, google keeps telling me to use git archive --remote, but I can't get it to work personally...

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Posted : January 28, 2013 07:31
 Vuzz
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If you're interested in playing with a model that already exists and improving something that is guaranteed to be in the game, now is a great chance.

 

You honestly think it's an improved model ? 

 

thanks a lot , but i prefer  continue to play with these one :

 

 

screenshot2012121910563.png

 

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Posted : January 28, 2013 08:46
(@mikehgentry)
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Ah, actually I'm not sure I know how to get Blender or Wings3D to read .max files (there's an import script here http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/Import-Export/3DS_MAX_Scene_Interchange , but that seems to be for .scn), and importing the .dae from the game models folder doesn't seem to be working either for some reason...

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Posted : January 28, 2013 09:03
(@fluffyfreak)
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You honestly think it's an improved model ? 

 

thanks a lot , but i prefer  continue to play with these one :

 

 

That would be why we're asking for an ARTIST to help πŸ˜‰

 

Although if you want to make it look more like that one you can at least modify the texture on the new one since it's mapped to avoid stretching single pixels across the inner & outer surfaces of the rings.

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Posted : January 28, 2013 09:27
(@fluffyfreak)
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@mikehgentry:

What format would you prefer the file in? I can convert it to something else if not DAE.

There's the old fall back like OBJ / 3DS / ASE. Or more modern ones like FBX.

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Posted : January 28, 2013 09:42
 robn
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You honestly think it's an improved model ? 

Welcome back, Vuzz! Now returning you to my block list where you belong.

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Topic starter Posted : January 28, 2013 10:31
(@mikehgentry)
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It seems you can export FBX from Blender, I'm not sure if you can import.

 

Hard to say without trying it...

 

Probably better to go with the oldest / simplest open format that isn't lossy. obj seems popular, afraid I haven't a clue though.

 

I can read .daes normally, it's just that the ones in pioneer/data/models/stations/hoop_spacestation don't seem to work. I import them and nothing appears on the outliner or in the scene. Odd...

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Posted : January 28, 2013 11:10
 Vuzz
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Welcome back, Vuzz! Now returning you to my block list where you belong.

 

je n'en attendais pas moins de toi , mon cher ^^ , toujours egal a toi mΓƒΒͺme .

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Posted : January 28, 2013 13:35
(@shadmar)
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@mikehgentry

 

Here a quick pack of different formats you could try :

 

dae,fbx,X,obj,u3d,3ds

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Posted : January 28, 2013 13:57
(@shadmar)
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(@marcel)
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thanks a lot , but i prefer  continue to play with these one :

Thanks for that, but it is going away. I'd like to take up the challenge myself, but I'm not ready yet. I'm still working on the Gingerbread Man tutorial. :dontknow:

The picture you posted isn't even from the latest version. That one has more detail on the struts and windows. In lua I used a trig function loop to place transparent disks around a circle. I can't wait to find out how something like that is done in Blender! :O

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Posted : January 28, 2013 14:03
(@brianetta)
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je n'en attendais pas moins de toi , mon cher ^^ , toujours egal a toi mΓƒΒͺme .

Heh. *plonk*

It's a sound I never tire of hearing.

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Posted : January 28, 2013 14:48
 Vuzz
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Here is some style motivation (or maybe this is big_crappy?)

 

https://www.google.no/search?q=2001+a+space+odyssey+space+station&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=COe&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:nb-NO:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=DAMHUYifF8Ly4QSt9YHwDQ&ved=0CDYQsAQ&biw=1076&bih=513

your link , give me an idea , 

 

We can join 2 space stations ( big or hoop) together to have a double capacity space station ? 

with two entry in the oposite side and two dockin' aera ( with dockin' placeeach called with  a number)

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Posted : January 28, 2013 22:31
(@shadmar)
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Maybe this could be used : http://www.solcommand.com/2009/12/jungle.html

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Posted : January 29, 2013 01:02
 robn
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Maybe it can - I certainly have no objection. But lets stay on topic here.

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Topic starter Posted : January 29, 2013 01:33
(@marcel)
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Well, at the risk of straying off topic, I have an objection to Sol Command's Jungle Station. The stations in Pioneer spin to simulate gravity. Sol Command's station, although beautiful, does not spin. It uses a Star Trek type of artificial gravity. Look at the orientation of the river. I think that with some modification it could work very nicely indeed, but the coriolis effect should be taken into account for any upgrades or new designs for Pioneer stations.

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Posted : January 29, 2013 03:44
(@mikehgentry)
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I think coriolis effect is what causes cyclones to spin. Centrifugal effect is spinning to create gravity.

 

Thanks Shadmar - those seem to work. I'll have a play around with it, try to get some doors and lights attached, then see if I can come up with some variations. I figure the models don't take up too much space (especially if they're sharing texture), so pretty much the more the merrier right?

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Posted : January 29, 2013 06:05
(@brianetta)
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Coriolis would be very noticeable in that station, if it was turning. You'd row in a straight line across the river and wind up on the bank you left...

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Posted : January 29, 2013 06:59
(@mikehgentry)
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Oh - sorry Marcel, I misunderstood what you were getting at.

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Posted : January 29, 2013 07:33
 Fish
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this could work for now, i started with the original hoop and updated it a bit with a new outer hoop i also altered the connecting parts and re-textured it

 

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/98265626/newHoop_spacestation.7z

 

contains the max file, psd file and the exported .DAE's and .PNG's and .model file (currently named newhoop_spacestation)

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Posted : February 7, 2013 10:18
(@fluffyfreak)
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That looks really cool Fish πŸ˜€

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Posted : February 7, 2013 13:35
 Fish
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updated it a bit with some navlight nodes, tweaked the texture and cleaned up the collision mesh

 

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/98265626/hoop_spacestation.7z

 

screenshot-20130208-124414_zps72b81594.p

 

and its all named and ready to replace the hoop station for those that want it now

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Posted : February 8, 2013 14:39
(@fluffyfreak)
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Nice changes Fish πŸ™‚ I heartily approve!

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Posted : February 8, 2013 23:59
(@Anonymous)
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That's very nice! :good:

It would also be a nice touch if solar panels have a reflective surface. πŸ™‚

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Posted : February 9, 2013 03:38
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