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Game Like Elite: Dangerous ?

(@desert3142)
Active Member

Hi People! I'm new here.

 

I'm a star trek online player. But i really like space simulators with cockpits and maybe with procedural system! I love to explore strange new worlds!.

 

I have Sony Vaio Vpceh1s1e/B (Intel Core i-5 2410M 2.30 Ghz, 4GB RAM and Nvidia Geforce 410M with 2,7 Gb of VRam)

 

I tryed x Rebirth.. but it lags on my pc

 

I found on internet that Elite: Dangerous should work on pc with low graphics but i really don't know if my pc will support it.

 

So Do you know similar games ? that i could play with same characteristics ?

 

Thanks!

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Topic starter Posted : October 24, 2014 07:41
(@caleb)
Trusted Member

I know! But is a secret...

 

www.evochron.com :hi:

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Posted : October 24, 2014 10:56
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
Famed Member

Hi there Desert3142. Welcome to the SSC! :girlsmile: You could try Oolite, Pioneer , Scout Plus, Genesia or  FFE3D. All of these are free "Eliteish" remakes.

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Posted : October 24, 2014 11:01
(@expandingman)
Reputable Member

I definitely second the Evochron recommendation.  It is an extremely under-rated game.  It has significant problems (which are not worth getting into here unless you're interested), but with the lack of space-sims in the last 15 years, it is one of the best.  Also, although it is worse in every other aspect, it does have one huge advantage over Elite: it actually feels like you are flying a space-ship.  (The flight model in E:D is much more arcade-like.)  

 

Also, you might try X3.  It is a lousy flight-sim, but it is a pretty great economy simulator, and allows you to build a much larger trade empire than most games.   

 

As for Elite: Dangerous itself, although I have found paying extra for the beta to be worth it, I would not recommend you try it on that machine.  There are some performance oddities (although it really seems like the biggest ones are server-side), and it's rather buggy.  I personally would find compounding bugs with low performance to be much worse than dealing with one or the other.  If they do a good job optimizing and bug fixing, you may very well be perfectly happy playing it on that machine on very low settings, but I'd definitely wait for the full release.

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Posted : October 24, 2014 17:14
(@desert3142)
Active Member

Guys i wanna thank you all to have answered 🙂

 

However

Caleb: (Evochron) seems preety good on graphics but i have doubt on game mechanics..

Geraldine: Your space simulator are interesting especially Oolite that reminds me E:D but are too old.. i want a beautiful experince

AndyJ: As i said to geraldine.. i'm looking for something with good graphics..

ExpandingMan: X3 seems interesting but i don't really know if it would be funny as E:D

AndyJ: Intel core i5 is a quad core built after intel quad generation.. graphic card is a part of a problem i make you an example

 

I Can Run: Battlefield 2 with all settings High, Enemy territory Quake Wars with high settings, Cod4 too, cod2 too

 

Look at this (Enemy Territory: Quake Wars chopper)Enemy_Territory_Quake_Wars_04.jpg

 

My PC actually support this graphics.. it's not like Elite but if exist a simulator with this specs it would be GREAT 🙂

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Topic starter Posted : October 25, 2014 01:29
(@pinback)
99 Star General

You could have a look at DarkStar 1, Space Force and Galaxy On Fire 2, should be able to find them all on Steam or GOG. The first two are getting on a bit, Darkstar from 2006 and all of em are bog standard Elite clones (the first Elite that is).

 

Otherwise most of the shiny graphic cockpit simulators are still being worked on apart from X-Rebirth which is being tweaked.

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Posted : October 25, 2014 02:59
(@desert3142)
Active Member

PINBACK: Thanks i probably try Dark Star One and X3: Albion Prelude. I also will try Elite: Dangerous when it will be released hoping that my pc will support it.. If somone else has some suggestion on other game i appreciate 🙂 🙂

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Topic starter Posted : October 25, 2014 03:46
(@expandingman)
Reputable Member

 

However

Caleb: (Evochron) seems preety good on graphics but i have doubt on game mechanics..

 

 

Just out of curiosity, which game mechanics are you referring to?  It is pretty much like Elite-lite, but with a better flight model (although I'd not necessarily say that combat is "better" overall because the weapon mechanics and AI are so much worse).  

 

Not really trying to convince you or anything, I was just curious.

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Posted : October 25, 2014 08:29
(@desert3142)
Active Member

i have doubt on game physics.. In this video the player is entering in the atmosphere and i don't see so much realism... and buildings on the planet are scaled badly

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Topic starter Posted : October 25, 2014 13:56
(@expandingman)
Reputable Member

I see.  You're right, atmospheric physics is certainly not realistic (building a true hydrodynamic flight model would require a lot of development time to say the least).  However, that's a pretty small part of the game, and the space flight physics are more realistic than the vast majority of games.  (There is a speed limit, but in the majority of circumstances you are unlikely to reach it.)  

 

If you're looking for realism, I hate to tell you that E:D has a completely unrealistic flight model.  This was a crushing disappointment to me when I first started playing it, I wouldn't have been so upset but many of FD's claims about the flight model are extremely misleading.  It's still one of the best arcade-like flight sims I've played, but there's something heartbreaking about having such a cartoonish flight model in what is otherwise an astoundingly realistic universe.  Definitely worth buying, but hopefully fair warning will save you some of the frustration I had.

 

Anyway, play what you want of course, but I thought Evochron fit your bill extremely well and is one of the better modern space-sims out there, so I thought I'd ask.

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Posted : October 25, 2014 19:49
(@desert3142)
Active Member

I agree with you.. However I tried x3 and it didn't inspire me.. I tried darkstar one and it doesn't install on my PC..

I will try also evochron.. But why this game if it is so good than others sim it's not promoted noone talk about it and in this forum there is no section dedicated to it as for x3, elite, etc...

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Topic starter Posted : October 26, 2014 07:07
Geraldine
(@geraldine)
Famed Member

The SSC does have a section dedicated to all the Starwraith games including Evochron. You can find it here. There is even some of the early versions of the combat orientated games and demo of the later ones in the download area here.

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Posted : October 26, 2014 10:52
(@desert3142)
Active Member

Thanks! i Will take a look at these forums and try the simulator! 🙂

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Topic starter Posted : October 26, 2014 11:17
(@pinback)
99 Star General

If you are using Windows 7 this thread may be of some help http://spacesimcentral.com/ssc/topic/973-darkstar-one-need-help/?hl=darkstar with installing Darkstar 1

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Posted : October 26, 2014 12:42
(@caleb)
Trusted Member

Take a look at my vids. about Evochron Mercenary 🙂

 

PvP (Driver and me)

 

PvE (7 players online)

Same video, iron man camera:

 

Artistic vids:

 

Info:

Expansion Edition: Authorised Evochron Mercenaries' Technical Guide: http://evochron2.junholt.se/guides/EvochronMercenariesTechnicalManual(ExpansionEdition)OctRevision.pdf

 

And yes, i love Evochron Mercenary xD

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Posted : October 26, 2014 14:43
(@Anonymous)
New Member

Seriously just get Edge of Chaos + Mods - on your hardware with will run fluidly and you will see why this is a space sim classic. It's like Elite in that there is trading /piracy  / missions / docking and a storyline but the mods let you go open world if you want that. Still best space flight model there is. It's the closest thing you will find to ED as it is now that will play on your hardware.

 

About $4/£2 on gog.com  http://www.gog.com/game/independence_war_2 price of a cup of coffee (small)

 

I'm assuming you're on Windows 7 it will run on that and XP fine  - I was playing it on XP on a 3000 GHZ single core with a AGP card no problem.

 

If you get it LMK - I have all the mods on google drive. 

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Posted : November 12, 2014 16:07
(@captainkal)
Prominent Member

 

 

Configuration settings are in ffed3daj.cfg which you can edit in notepad, and as you have a lot of video memory then I expect that you can set:
loadPanelTexturesToVideoCard=1
loadCabinTexturesToVideoCard=1
loadGameTexturesToVideoCard=1
loadPlanetTexturesToVideoCard=1
loadTerrainTexturesToVideoCard=1
That will cache a lot of the graphics onto the video card instead of using up system memory.
You can then try setting modelPreLoad=99 with 32bit windows, and certainly so if you have 64bit windows. This will try to load all of the game models into memory - but if you have any issues such as objects with bright white surfaces, e.g. the asteroids in the intro sequence, revert to modelPreLoad=2
(please see the FFED3DAJ_readme.txt file for more information!)

The executable to play will be FFED3DAJ.exe

 

 

BTW thank you fot your hard work   :good:  :good:

 

 

 

Seriously just get Edge of Chaos + Mods - on your hardware

 

What kind of mods?

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Posted : November 13, 2014 10:50
(@Anonymous)
New Member

Mods are ship and system mods from designersmodders including ultimate freeform. Two open game mods Torn stars unstable space and gold rush. http://www.i-war2.com

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Posted : November 13, 2014 14:55