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machines and maintainability

(@potsmoke66)
Noble Member

machines and maintainability

maintainability in the meaning of the word, what's needed to keep the machine running for a long time

not a specifical game related post of mine, only some thoughts of a silkscreenprinter who maintained his machine self.

imagine the printing machines as huge as a truck, no "toys", this in advance.

i was thinking a bit about that and what means maintainability to me as a engineer or keeper of a machine, like servicing them.

a little history (once more)

we had for many years in the textile industry machines controlled with simple logical circuits build from relays, a reliable and managable system.

relays do not fail (yes, they do sometimes)

if one fails, easy, i replace the burned relay, machine runs, all clear

time has changed, already when i still was a little younger

they put computercontrolled machines on the market,

of course our factory as a leader in textile printing must have had one, no question.

but i as the printer was never satisfied with them, why?

first the result is the same, a high quality printing (my question always was, what it's good for if it isn't better? evil tongues would say to give a programmer a job)

adjusting of the computer controlled machine is difficult and in general computers are sensitive unlike relays, they are sensitive to mechanical influence, sensitive to heat, sensitive to electrical fields.

imo in the wrong place in a industry where it's steady hot, wet, and a lot mechanical forces shook the machines, which is bound to the way the machine works, with large electromagnets that pull on very large rubber band and some moving steel cylinders.

we had a lot of problems with the new machine, of course it was a new technology, but above listed forces won't disappear in a 100 years, it's bound to the work, it can't be done "soft", like in a test case, workers wear no lab coats 😉 you have to produce not to test. money's got to be made.

but worst of all was, i couldn't maintain my machine myself no longer.

if my machine stood still, i had to wait for the "specialist", a programmer, god you waited a long long time for them, it seems they arn't in a hurry.

4 hours at least until he arrived and connected his computer to my machine, test runs begun, yet another and another, one day was easy lost.

it was my time what was lost, my "ride writer" stood still. you could easy say it was my responsability...

finally we got it running, but it's not unfair to say until next month.

if i think it has cost me a relay and a little work before, perhaps ten minutes or so...

i have to add that they invested a lot of time (weeks) in making the impulse smoother, the idea or hope was to get rid of the mechanical forces. but well finally it was still a electromechanical thing with the named large electromagnets and heavy steel cylinders, no chance to get that really soft, however soft the impulse is.

this is maintainability for the engineer, ordinary, safe, reliable technology which i can service with a "swiss army knife"

complex "hidden" systems are imo anything else rather maintainable, but well perhaps one could see that from a different point of view.

perhaps 200 relays look chaotical and the chip is a nice cute "insect" compared to it, but maintainability?

without the programmer i was lost, no help, that thing will never run.

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Topic starter Posted : April 27, 2012 17:29
(@potsmoke66)
Noble Member

of course, trhe semiconductor controlled machines had some advantages,

mainly or the main idea behind is reproducability.

on the ordinary build machine, the printer had to control all settings, it needs experience and some background info to make something really good with them.

pressure, speed, all was set ordinary some things really simple mechanical solutions like the springs with which you controlled the pressure.

yes certainly, not easy to handle, needs a lot of feeling, you had to know or better feel the difference between them, a new spring works different rather a old used one.

things like distance was controlled with simple riders as end points, you adjusted them and a little relay controlled the way.

the idea of semiconductor or computer controlled machines is offens, to build a machine which is "maintainable" by uneducated.

as final idea i would hand a chart or list to the worker where all settings was printed on, so you don't need no experience nor to know how the thing works.

the idea isn't bad after all, somehow i liked it much, it was pretty cool to set pressure and way with some knobs and you can copy the settings to all units.

apart from that i was proud to work with such a (back then) super modern machine and of course i was interested much in how the things work.

but sensitive, often many units didn't worked or not as expected. servo motors and semiconductors do fail, they have to fail imo (think of murphys law).

conclusion is imo, you only moved the problem from the printer to the programmer and you still need qualified personnel, or to say it right one more, instead of the intentional idea, one less.

that was just some general thoughts, no complaining about something or such, just to see certain things from a different point of view.

what is to be good to maintain for one, mustn't be good to maintain for the other.

you could easy entitle this with; why some utter, "we never get a Saturn V to the moon again". 😉


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i remember right now i worked also in a different factory, printing to, but printing books and adverts and stickers, for certain special occasions we still had a 100 year old "Heidelberg", i loved that machine, it was used to print money. 100% reliable, nothing (except earthquakes or bombs) can stop this machine from working exact over a long long time.

precision and reliability is not reached by any modern machine.

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Topic starter Posted : April 28, 2012 02:23
(@walterar)
Prominent Member

Modern machines are like condoms, use and discard. :mrgreen:

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Posted : April 28, 2012 05:01