It's not that people don't want it as such, it's that there's a lot of other things that need doing to make the core gameplay and technology more complete and adding in another entire set of features would distract from that work.

Having roving surface action would be cool it just opens up other problems.

Also, what do you do with it? You arrive at a planet, dock, get out and then...walk for a bit?

If you want to write something that uses it then go ahead, I've taken a look before now and Zugz actually had a branch, called "Eva", where it was implemented and you floated over the surface of the world in a big ball 🙂

Also it's not really what the focus of Pioneer has been so far.

If you want to then add it, but most of the people on the team haven't really been that interested in it.

Andy

I'm mostly against it because this is a space game. If we try to be all kinds of games, we'll end up being crap at them all. I'd much prefer to focus on cool things to do in space.

But that's my own opinion, and a nice implementation would go a long way towards changing my mind 🙂

An old Gernot model that I used as escape pod. Maybe you can "walk" on an asteroid.

What about my idea with a "Jetpack" ship? would this work as I mentioned ?

And: What would I do with it? Well, things get going when doing...Der Weg ist das Ziel. Also: Noctis has gone that way and had a good feedback.

Walterar,

I see now that this has been tryed yet. Very interesting! I first thought that modding the outside camera could give me something getting close to that idea: afterall it's all a question of player's perception. But the simplest idea is to just implement another ship to give the same sensation, thus: a jetpack.

Another thing, very small in comparison, that I miss in Pioneer is:  I remember the most fascinating thing I watched in Frontier 2 was the purple spot of my own ship in the orbit view: when I accelerate time, I could simulate Planet Swinging like it is done today with satellites. Very unfortunately this has been dropped in FFE, a reason why FFE didn't attrack me the same way. Here also one could ask: what do you do with that ...but that's how space things work. Also: I always see real astronauts walking out of their ships...

Are the Military missions planned in long term (or already there)?

Thanks,

XenonS

"And: What would I do with it?"

walterar,

thanks ! And very nice video 😎

My FP idea was more intended as a joke ,rather than something were I would spend monthes doing. But I much appreciate all your reactions. I hope you don't mind if I'm messing around with Pioneer getting my idea to work 🙂

Greets,

XenonS

fluffyfrake,

thanks to refer me to Zugz, so I could find this thread:

http://spacesimcentral.com/forum/topic/2390-surface-exploration-idearequest/?hl=zugz#entry24281

It has already interesting ideas about this topic and also relate the real difficulties involved.

Thanks,

XenonS

I hope you don't mind if I'm messing around with Pioneer getting my idea to work 🙂

That's what we're all doing!